Disclosure from the outset: I don't have any insider track at all. I haven't even followed the rumors, and haven't even looked at the teaser videos that are out there. This is just all my own imagination. It isn't information.
With that out of the way, a few basic principles:
- A new 35mm film SLR must be designed to be iconic. It should be something that can last in the market for 20+ years like the LX did, and be something worthy of standing next to the survivor film Leicas. It must be special enough to gain some mindshare out in the general culture, beyond the boundaries of the community of enthusiasts.
- It must position Pentax as an iconic marque and company, and build off of its classic heritage and highest accomplishments. Perhaps even help launch a proud Pentax brand, with regalia and merch and swag and wearables, in the same manner as Harley-Davidson did so successfully during one of its comebacks. Maybe that last is a stretch, I dunno.
- It must be mechanical, or at least mostly so, so that it has "object quality." Jewel-like. A fetish object. An object worthy of desire. With electronics used judiciously, sparingly, and only where needed. Not unworthy of being pressed into use as a "fashion accessory" by some. We old Photo-Dawgs don't care, but classic film cameras are personal style statements to young people now. Lean into that!
I'd have them make the "Spotmatic III." Does any old SLR look as classic and perfect as a Spotmatic? That doesn't exist. The same size, shape and weight as the classic SP and SL. Perhaps with adjustments—maybe three ounces lighter, and maybe the pentaprism would have to be a bit larger. Modernized, stylized—slightly. The same beautifully durable materials. (Do any old cameras wear as well through time as Spotmatics? Methinks not.) And purist: no self-timer. No hot shoe or flash terminals. No mirror lock-up (well, maybe mirror lock-up). No double exposure button. No connection for motor winders or drives. No autofocus, of course (although I'd tolerate a focus confirmation light)—manual focus might be slower, but it's its own joy. The whole camera would embody the ideas of deliberation and contemplation, as does using film in 2024.
None of that is needed now because the camera won't be anybody's go-to for workaday, necessary pictures. Just a purist machine for exposing negative film and nothing more. It doesn't need to do any kind of specialist double-duty. It would be for one thing and one thing only: looking through, and exposing pictures mindfully, deliberately, and joyfully.
The legendary Pentax Spotmatic, pride of Japan in
the 1960s. Photo by Paul M. Provencher.
Then, some modern updates: 100% finder and better eye relief, better coating in the prism and finder optics. But with plenty of "snap" on the groundglass, rather than brightness at the expense of being able to see the plane of focus. K-mount, of course, not Pentax screwmount. Diopter correction built in, so it can't get lost. The beautiful self-timer lever could be retained to serve as the lens-release lever. Great care taken with haptics and hand-feel: the smoothness of the wind-on, the sound of the shutter (quieter), the damping of the mirror. I'd give it three sizes of optional add-on handgrips, but, continuing under the heading of "if it ain't broke," retain the plain old ring lugs so that any strap could be used, and a mechanical connection for a mechanical cable release.
One thing they could work on re-engineering would to foolproof the film loading. Years of serving students and enthusiasts have taught me that that's something that can frustrate people about film cameras. Kodak's research showed the same.
Spot on
Autoexposure and metering is where my fancies get really sweet. Pentax needs no introduction to logic in control layouts: they perfected it, their cameras (many of them) embodied it. So, the classic aperture ring and shutter speed dial (going up to 1/2000th or at most 1/4000th, no more than that is needed for film now!), with an "A" for auto on each: when both are set on a value, you're in Manual mode; when the aperture dial is set on A and the shutter speed dial is set on a value, you're in Shutter Priority; when the aperture is set on a value and the shutter speed is set on A, you're in Aperture Priority; and finally, with both set on A, you're in Program Mode. No more modes than that.
Simple centerweighted averaging metering. People will, after all, be using forgiving B&W film and forgiving color negative film for the most part.
...But here comes the kicker. Longtime Pentaxians know that the name "Spotmatic" was originally chosen because the camera was supposed to have spot metering capability. But it was too early for the tech, the idea was dropped late in the development, and the cameras never had spot metering—even while the name was retained.
I'd propose to restore the original raison d'etre of the classic camera. On the back of the top plate, right where it's easiest to access for the thumb of your right hand, a small button that, when you push it, gives you a spot reading corresponding to just the area of the focus aids in the finder, and simultaneously locks exposure until you release it again. This allow you to take a spot reading on a middle gray area of the picture and recompose and take one shot or many, or quickly revert or reset as needed. Two metering methods (and nothing else, no matter what your engineers can think up), in combination giving the photographer all he or she really needs for general and expressive photography.
Simple. Purist. Elemental.
Could they sell this whole idea? I don't know, but I sure as hell could.
Skimp not!
Finally, and this is important: really, really good build quality, and a high enough price. (That might sound surprising, coming from me!) You have to differentiate it properly from actual old cameras. It has to be better and finer, in part because it is newer, in part because it's made to be a precision instrument. Not priced so high that it seems like a ripoff: that would not be aligned with Pentax's history of making plain, unpretentious working tools (which this is not manifesting but rather glorifying, as all good retro ought). I'm thinking somewhere between maybe $2,200 and $2,800, today? To earn the company some money, sure. But it also has to be high enough for the new camera to be the aspirational target of all those young enthusiasts who are currently using actual old used SLRs from the bygone days. Importantly, it has to be enough nicer than all the old cameras that it creates legitimate lust and longing: the kind of thing people of all sorts would want because, well, because they want it. Remember, nobody needs a film camera. People will only buy one because it's beautiful and it delights them and it promises them an experience and they desire the thing. They'll buy it only for love, so you've got to make something people can love and then be able to articulate all the reasons why they should.
Never happen, of course. But, as Ernest Hemingway once famously wrote (coincidentally, in The Sun Also Rises, Japan of course being the Land of the Rising Sun): "Isn't it pretty to think so?"
Mike
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Landon Whitsitt: "This may not earn me a 'Featured Comment' spot (pun intended), but: YES. A thousand times YES. All this. Every bit of it."
Mark: "When Nikon released new film rangefinders in 2000 and again in 2005, my impression is that they were mostly snapped up by collectors. Of the ones currently for sale on EBay, quite a few are (or claim to be) unused. Will that be the case with a new film Pentax? I hope not, but it wouldn’t surprise me if Pentax’s revived film SLR sells at collector prices, and has a limited production run."
Erwin Frank-Schultz: "Agree with most of your ideas. Don't see much harm in a self timer and sync terminal. Love the idea of focus confirmation LED (with arrow either side). Should have optional focus screen with no optical focus aid, just circle for sport meter and frame for assisted focus. The first camera I bought (rather than 'inherited') was a Canon AL-1—loved the focus confirmation on that. Single button press spot meter / AE-lock also spot on. ;-) Any thought on lenses that should be released alongside?"
Bill S. (partial comment): "So what about lenses? I'm sure Pentax will want to sell some lenses for the camera."
Mike replies: Hmm, not sure, because I no longer remember off the top of my head all the various functional permutations. I think it would require an A lens to conform to the modes I've already called for. But the A lenses weren't my favorites. I'd say on the ideal plane at which my brain resides on this topic, it should be designed to be native with SMC Pentax-M lenses, the best line they ever had, and that there should be some new ones to go with the camera—but all designed for character rather than excessive, bland, synthetic-looking, overperfected perfection like many of today's lenses. Leave resolution to digital. The Spotmatic III would be for negative films, B&W and color.
Oh, and for any such camera to be manual-only would be THE KISS OF DEATH.
Kenneth Tanaka: "I’ve never touched a Pentax camera in my life and my desire to use film again is just slightly ahead of getting a cold sore. But I’d endorse your performative specs for such a camera. It’s worked for Leica for a long time."
Mike replies: That amounts to high praise from you! (Ken is a businessman and remarkably clear-eyed and hard-headed.)
Kenneth Tanaka: "Addendum: Watching The Beatles' A Hard Day’s Night yesterday (an annual event) reminded me of how terrific Pentax’s marketing maneuver was with them. Pentax gave 'the lads' cameras around that time…which they used well during their first American tour. (Ringo's snaps were published some years ago and Paul’s were just recently published.) Plus Ringo is prominently shown with his camera in the film. Although the main audience from those days is dwindling, Pentax might still do well to leverage such retro moments, as the film camera itself is pure retro chic."
robert e: "According to Pentax designer Takeo Suzuki, the first camera being developed for this project is a compact, fixed-lens non-SLR with a mechanical film advance lever. This video is particularly interesting. But there is lots more at the project's home page. The main takeaways for me, based on a brief sampling: 1.) The project is not about one camera—it's about reviving a vibrant and relevant film camera industry to support the growing numbers of young film enthusiasts and make the hobby more accessible to the uninitiated. (With Pentax as the flagship brand, of course.) That said, a lot is riding on this first camera. If it succeeds, SLRs and medium format are possible. 2.) It's about the joys and pleasures of analog photography, including the satisfying haptics and ergonomics of mechanical cameras. More generally, Pentax wants to understand and deliver what people find so compelling about film photography. 3.) It's a last chance to preserve and pass on a living body of manufacturing know-how (and Pentax's legacy) before it disappears along with its last practitioners. However it goes, Pentax seems to be doing a wonderful job so far of involving the world and stoking enthusiasm."
John v: "Not having seen anything about Pentax’s film camera plans, I’m inclined to think the untapped film camera market isn’t high-end SLRs but rather high quality point-and-shoot cameras. It’s the Yashica T4 and Contax P&S cameras selling for ridiculous prices to young film photographers."
Roger: "Pentax will need to come out with a 6-MP CCD-sensored digicam if they want to stay current with the cool kids. It’ll need to use AA batteries and create 'film-like' output."
Kodachromeguy: "It will be difficult for Pentax to find the machinists/technicians, materials, and production system make a new camera that has the smoothness and precision of an early 1970s Spotmatic. Was the gearing made of brass? Was each camera hand assembled? Nikon pulled it off with their reissue rangefinders in the early 2000s, but it was expensive and difficult. They even had challenges finding the correct metals and coatings."
Steve Renwick: "The meter display should be match-needle style, like God Herself intended. And of course the camera should allow the photographer to go on shooting, unmetered and manually, if the batteries fail."
Sounds good! However, if you had looked at the teaser videos, you would learn that they plan to start with a fixed lens camera. It will have a lever film advance. That’s most of what they say. A compact camera, but likely not too compact. They said designing the film advance turned out to be complicated. They don’t rule out an SLR later though.
Posted by: John Krumm | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 12:09 AM
pretty good specifications there. my pricing would be - usd 2500 for body, 2800 with a 43mm f/1.9 kit. another 100-150 usd for a black edition and colours released as special editions for the collectors
Posted by: almostinfamous | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 01:47 AM
So what about lenses? I'm sure Pentax will want to sell some lenses for the camera. Pentax, thanks to their somewhat obsolete lens lineup, still has about a half a dozen lenses with aperture rings left from film days. But the camera may need a dial to allow control of aperture on lenses without aperture rings. Perhaps they will come out with some new "Limited" lenses specifically for the new film camera.
But that is all for the future since the initial film camera will be a fixed lens compact, perhaps something like the old GR.
Posted by: Bill S. | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 02:25 AM
What a nice memory it is to advance the film with that lovely lever on the Spotmatic. What was moreso nice about that was that advancing the film was part of the process of taking a photo. I only advanced the film when I had decided to shoot. Motor drive cameras like my wife's old Rebel were always positioned at the next frame, goading me on to shoot. As if it was in charge.
That auto-exposure procedure you describe, the way it worked on the Super Program I think, well that's how the creator intended it to work. Everything else is an abomination. I still reach for the non-existent aperture ring on my m4/3s lenses.
Just weep at the thought of how many people today have not felt the tactile pleasure of advancing film mechanically, turning an aperture ring, or feeling the shifter engage the next gear in a well-designed manual transmission.
Silly nostalgia maybe, but how many people smile at the thought of spinning control dials with their thumbs or index fingers. What pleasure centre does that excite.
Posted by: Robert Roaldi | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 07:18 AM
I can't find it now, but I seem to remember that Pentax aimed to produce two SLRs, one being a Manual Mechanical Marvel, the other more electronics based. I presume many parts would be common to both models.
So the marvel might be as you described, though perhaps just with manual exposure. The electronics version (with a few more whizz-bangs) could then offer compatibility with all recent and current lenses, in line with Pentax's long standing belief in not orphaning lens mounts.
Then lenses without aperture rings could be used, as could lenses designed only to cover the APS-C format, with a frame line or lines within the viewfinder.
New users would get an 'in" to the DSLR system, while current Pentaxians (I'm one) could use all their current lenses straight away.
The Whizz-bang would then be part of the Pentax system, instead of being like an odd cousin the family didn't see very often. That's not to put down the Marvel, which would satisfy the folk who want to do everything by hand with a piece of fine machinery.
Better to have two models, than one that's just a compromise.
Posted by: Roger Bradbury | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 08:12 AM
Looking at that photo I had managed to forget that they were labelled Honeywell. The ones we got here in Canada were always branded Asahi so far as I know.
Posted by: Robert Roaldi | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 08:46 AM
Maybe the new Pentax can shoot the 32mm by 24mm format, too.
Posted by: Robert Pillow | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 08:48 AM
I'm also hoping that they reissue some of their best manual prime lenses. I recently bought (yet again) a Pentax 35 F2 M, to use with an adapter on my Z7 and Z6. It's a delight to focus, even better than my much more modern Voigtlander 35. The edges are a little softer, but who cares.
Posted by: John Krumm | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 10:25 AM
Foolproof film loading: my first slr was a (second hand) Canon FT-b QL, where QL stood for Quick Load.
Worked always fine for me! Later Canon models didn't have this feature; not so foolproof after all or a matter of cost cutting?
Posted by: Nico | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 11:25 AM
My fear is a K1000, a Frankenstein of a camera! That said, if you’re going to use film, you don’t need it to be easy. So no Super A or autofocus. My preference would be a rebooted MX, why not? OK, a 100% mechanical camera might be a bit pricy, and the full information viewfinder won’t come cheap. So an ME, with a full manual mode? Oh, and a partial meter pattern, the AV on the MX ruined so many of my Kodachromes!
Posted by: Mike Jones | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 11:43 AM
Yes for the focus confirmation light only, good groundglass for manual focussing, classic ring lugs and a threaded shutter release.
I agree completely with autoexposure and metering. Classic Pentax hyperprogram.
I think you should have a flash terminals. Hot shoe would probably be preferred by younger people. After all, the camera should be usable for family gatherings.
Yes, keep that beautiful self-timer lever!
Keep the lens release separate from the self-timer lever. It's already on the lens mount on the modern models. No need to make a different spot for it.
Spot metering button -- great, but don't jam it on the top of the camera. Does it have to be on the right side of the camera? Maybe on the front of the camera, near the lens mount, not in the way of holding the camera. Perhaps a switch on the lens mount to choose metering?
Lenses - special manual lenses with damping like the pre-autofocus lenses.
Posted by: Dave | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 11:45 AM
As I read your description of what the camera should be I realized it wasn't too different from my still-working (but fully retired) Nikon FM. I used that camera for ~25 years. It even worked without batteries if you knew how to judge exposures.
So a Spotmatic with similar characteristics could be a winner.
Posted by: DavidB | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 12:02 PM
Please take out the automatic exposure modes. Anyone who can manually focus can also manually set exposure. Also take out the spot metering function. You do not need it. I've exposed thousands of rolls of Kodachrome (remember Kodachrome?) with very few bad exposures using nothing more than center-weighted metering, and sometimes just my eyeball and a good sense of the light. Any electronics should be made of parts that can be readily sourced into the long distant future. Electronics fail.
Posted by: Bill Tyler | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 12:18 PM
I'll take a digital version!
Posted by: Steve Deutsch | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 12:21 PM
Update: According to the latest installment of Barfout magazine's coverage of the project (dated today, December 19), there is a prototype of the compact camera, and it's described as "very thin" and "light"(at least in Japanese-to-English translation).
https://barfout.jp/feature/6133/
No photo, yet.
Based on this description and previous statements by designer Suzuki, I gather that the prime concerns were that the camera be easy and inviting to carry every day and that it have a mechanical film advance.
"Light" sounds unfortunately like "plastic" to me, but then "plastic" doesn't have to mean "cheap". Another clue is that Suzuki brought out a Ricoh half-frame camera at the unveiling. So, sounds to me like the prototype is something in the mold of 80's compacts, with a lever wind.
Posted by: robert e | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 12:32 PM
A feature post claimed that Contax and Yashica film P & S cameras are for "young" photographers. Maybe so, but this "old" photographer just had a book published shot almost entirely on an old Contax T2. And, coincidentally, the only other rolls of film I shot for the book were with a Pentax MZ-S.
https://www.immaterialbooks.com/store/p/grift
Posted by: Andrew Kochanowski | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 01:18 PM
I’ve started saving for it just in case you are right!
Posted by: David Cope | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 01:54 PM
You are way too 'purist' for me. At 79 I am an old dawg B&W guy and when I want to shoot 35mm film I already have the camera I want. It's a Canon EOS Elan7 and it is one of the film cameras I won't part with, that and my cherry Wista 4x5.
Posted by: James Bullard | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 03:09 PM
Those classic, clean Spotmatic lines still attract- even the self timer is on another level!
Rest assured it will be nothing like you or anyone else dreams, but it would be nice if it is a quality object with enough 'ris' to create some waves!
Still not a fan of the recent Nikon digital/analog conglomerations...
Posted by: Stan B. | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 03:19 PM
"Perhaps even help launch a proud Pentax brand, with regalia and merch and swag..."
So anyway, until recently, I had an essentially flawless wooden counter in my kitchen, a slab of wood 9'3" long, 35" wide, 3" thick. Black. Not shiny, but with a certain sheen to it. Then, I think because I bought a Pentax Monochrome, Pentax sent me, without warning, a gift: a pentaprism. Just exactly that: a piece of glass that would fit in an SLR viewfinder It came nicely packaged in a gift box. Setting the box on the once-flawless countertop, I lifted the pentaprism out, and tried to squint through it out to the yard. I then fumbled it, and the extremely sharp-edged pentaprism dropped onto the previously flawless counter top, and gouged out y-shaped cut. Not large, but easily seen against the sheen, and essentially irreparable. My wife, sitting across the counter, said, "What did you do?" She grabbed the pentaprism, and cut her previously flawless hand. The pentaprism now resides in the Santa fe land fill.
I wish they'd sent me a tee-shirt.
[You should have had it cast in lucite. Arthur Kramer, lens guru of the old Modern Photography magazine, had an Apo-El-Nikkor 105mm enlarging lens cast in lucite, which he used as a paperweight on his desk. (There's one for sale on eBay right now...not in lucite...for $8,500.) But it's possible the pentaprism would have disappeared in the lucite, I don't know. Even if it did it would have made a good conversation piece for other photographers..."can you guess what essential part of a camera is in here?" --Mike]
Posted by: John Camp | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 03:45 PM
Surely there must thousands (or millions) of perfectly useable film SLRs out there that film enthusiasts could pick up at a fraction of the price of a brand new one?
Posted by: Dan Deakin | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 05:24 PM
"A new 35mm film SLR must be designed to be *iconic*."
I would have said *ironic*. Typo? ;)
Posted by: Arg | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 06:09 PM
My first SLR was a Pentax Spotmatic. I bought it at a PX in Naples, Italy in 1965. I used that camera for years until I switched to an Olympus OM-2N for my 35mm, about 1980. Good cameras, fond memories.
Posted by: Bandbox | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 06:13 PM
I’ll echo at least part of what Ken says. No need to care about Pentax; Leica already does it the right way. Funny how often that happens here, whether about film cameras, monochrome cameras, simple control interfaces, fantastic viewfinders, etc. Sometimes it’s better just to spend the money (or save buying used), buy once, and save the search and angst.
Posted by: Jeff | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 06:15 PM
I find it funny- after many have added what they would like to see built into a new film Pentax - it will not be thin or light.
Me? If I ever do have the urge to shoot 35mm film again (which I probably won't) I can dust off my 1969 Nikon F with the plain pentaprism finder.
Not thin or light but built like it will last for generations (its on its way to doing just that)
Posted by: JoeB | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 06:26 PM
Basic, jewel-like old camera: Olympus OM1 or OM3, for sure!
Posted by: HBernstein | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 08:05 PM
Unfortunately because of multiple eye surgeries my eyes aren’t what they used to. I’d want all the auto things that you don’t want.
Posted by: Khürt L Williams | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 08:59 PM
First, remember we are discussing fashion here. Film fashion. So leave logic at the door.
So many ways Pentax could go. And so many paths fraught with danger.
I'd say safest path is to remake the K1000. Keep the K-Mount. Add diopter correction, extend the eye relief, and brighten the prism. Upgrade the meter to some silicon cell, and use a common-as-dirt battery.
Then stop. Just stop. To attempt to do anything "better" is to risk disaster. Automation would be disaster. Autofocus? No way. Built-in-grip? Ehhhh, maybe. But maybe not.
Here I think I am conceptually correct, even if my numbers are off. Bring the price in around $300 with a 50mm lens. A price too high will not sell enough to even cover the costs, I feel. The film thing is fashion. People like fashion, but will only pay so much to get it.
(Like the idea of a Pentax Spotmatic with a K Mount, but that is too much to hope for. And if built to a lower standard than the original Spotmatic, would be a disappointment.)
Posted by: Kevin | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 10:24 PM
As the photo of the Honeywell Spotmatic shows, self-timer was a standard feature in that era of SLRs. It was used to let you take long exposures without a cable release (and, after all, the cable release can pull or push on the camera during the exposure). But I suppose for a toy camera, it's not really necessary.
And as for your proposal to include auto and programmed exposure, feh! That will entirely alienate the market for such a camera. Those are useful features, but do not fit a retro toy.
Though your proposed user interface is better than anything anybody has done, simple and obvious.
(As for spot metering, I moved from Nikon to Olympus because of the multi-spot metering in the OM-4. My verdict, after the fact, was that it was a fool's errand. It didn't improve my slide exposure much at all; I had hoped to achieve 75% of the exposure side of Zone System without slowing down my shooting very much, but the improvement just wasn't there. On the bright side I suppose it means I was better at working out exposures than I thought. These days, in digital, doesn't matter.)
Posted by: David Dyer-Bennet | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 10:32 PM
Overall, Pentax will offer us maximum lens compatibility rather than broad capabilities from new lenses. Considering Pentax's recent one-new-lens-a-year product cycles, I don't expect their SLR to land with a splash like the Olympus OM System, which launched with a dozen new lenses, as I recall.
"Obsolete" or not, Pentax still takes pride in its Limited lenses. They're shown in most of the promo videos they past. The DFA 31 and 77 are natural full-frame companions for a Pentax SLR. If you had to be limited to two primes, these Limited lenses fill the bill. They're small, fast and have manual aperture rings that are usable with current Pentax DSLRs. Coating have recently been improved over the older FAs, and they've been given circular apertures. The bokeh is excellent, and their resolution meets common standards of film.
These two focal lengths are an ideal place to start, but where's a film Pentaxian to look next? All the new lenses of this century, I believe, have used electronic apertures, with no lens ring. Most are large. I doubt they'll make the cut.
Pentax does have late-film-era lens designs from its FA series. Two midrange 2x zooms are still respectable, the 24-50 and the 35-75. The FA 35/2.0 and 50/2.0 have been updated and remain in production. Or Pentax might go farther into the past and revamp some lenses from the manual focus days. I wouldn't be surprised if they're labeled as Takumars....
Posted by: John McMillin | Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 11:41 PM
One of the reasons I moved from Pentax to Nikon many years ago was I really liked an old Nikkormat I borrowed from a relative for a week. I suggest it's precisely the heft of the old Leicas which encourages their owners to shoot with them. Yes, toting them around gets old, but the substantial feel to the heavy, high-end cameras from decades ago makes a person feel like they're accomplishing something while using a purposeful device made just for the task. I simply need to pick up my FM in comparison to my Nikkormats to feel the difference the weight makes to the experience of shooting with the newer, lighter, more compact Nikon. In every objective manner, the FM is a better camera, but it feels like I'm investing less muscle in the process of getting the photo I want.
Making a new Pentax film camera heavier just to make it feel more substantial wouldn't fly today. It's nice though to think that spending good money on a new Pentax would get you a camera which feels as if it's been milled from a solid block of metal and will work flawlessly for several decades.
Posted by: B Grace | Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 08:00 AM
My favourite Pentax, and the one I used the most and for the longest was the LX. Just the right size and heft, ergonomic perfection, and combined with their best screen (S69?) the best viewfinder I used in 35mm.
Metering off the film was excellent, not having to rely on batteries was a great comfort when in the field, and never gave me a problem. Just superb!
Posted by: Robert | Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 08:05 AM
The Pentax MX was also a fine camera, but its metering would need to be improved, as would the brightness of the viewfinder. However, I suspect a full manual camera of that quality built now would put it in the Olympus OM3 ti, FM3a, or Leica M6 price range. The LX, even higher.
Posted by: Robert | Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 08:30 AM
The A setting plus manual controls will work well enough for shutter, but what about aperture? It is all fine and good for Fuji to make a new suite of lenses from whole cloth with an A setting. But will Ricoh for Pentax?
How will it work with old mechanically linked lenses? The camera would be pointless without legacy lens support, after all. You'd still need a way to tell the camera to use the mechanical linkage to set aperture on the lens. Do you have an AA setting next to A on the A setting for shutter?
Also, one thing about the haptics of having A next to the manual settings. There ought to be a lock, preferably mechanical. At least, it should take a greater amount of force. The times I've shot Fuji, I managed to bump the setting from A enough times that I learned never to trust it. And no, F/16 or B exposure is not what I meant. Mostly I bumped it on the lens, and so my response to that was to crank aperture completely the other way, and just live with annoyingly narrow field of view.
Posted by: James | Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 10:34 AM
A new 35 mm SLR should be at least a 645.
Posted by: Adrian | Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 10:39 AM
I think John v is on the right track. Quality automatic compact, but non-motorized, seems to be what Pentax is going for. But easy for beginners and not so premium--perhaps more in the Olympus Stylus Epic ballpark. If it turns out to be a Ricoh Half Auto reissue, but with full frame and a good lens, with auto or two-zone focus, it might do pretty well.
Posted by: robert e | Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 01:52 PM
If I ran the world:
If the tooling for the spotmatic wind lever is still around, it was my favorite wind lever of all. Tactile qualities are a big part of why film cameras are engaging, they just feel good to use. Digital cameras have no feel at all.
To use an automotive analogy, I think the film Pentax should probably be very similar emotionally to the Mazda Miata, which is all about haptics and engagement.
Posted by: hugh crawford | Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 03:55 PM
If I ran the world part two:
An actual focusing screen with microprism and split image focusing aids and enough texture to actually be usable with manual focusing should go without saying, but I’m here to say it anyway.
Posted by: hugh crawford | Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 03:58 PM
Late comment but while I have no real interest personally in buying the new Pentax film camera and wish them well, I _really_ have bad GAS for a used Nikon S3 2000 & a Nikkor 35/2.5 to go with it. I already have a nice set of longer lenses (and a nice FSU 35/2.8 Jupiter 12 but it's no Nikkor).
I enjoy shooting film through my S2 with those lenses and the using my D810 to digitize the results.
Yo-ho-ho, it's the hybrid life for me 😈
Posted by: William Lewis | Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 06:51 PM
No need to reinvent the wheel. Pentax could just put back into production the LX and the K1000.
Posted by: Jeff1000 | Sunday, 24 December 2023 at 05:26 AM
When thinking about a Pentax film camera and lenses everyone mentions the Limited series that are amazing, but there are a number of older FA lenses that are very good and you can get them used for a song. After purchasing my APSc Pentax, I only purchased FA prime lenses in the hope that there would be a full-frame Pentax. That day arrived with the K-1 and I had a set of excellent FF lenses. The older FA zoom lenses are not as sharp and not good for pixel-peeping.
Posted by: Richard Skoonberg | Sunday, 24 December 2023 at 12:51 PM