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Thursday, 21 August 2025

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Very interesting, thanks! But careful,the film haters will start to make noises how they don't miss film, etc.

Here's something to try with digital, if you're so inclined.

1) Clear your computer desktop of all icons;
2) When you import your photos from the camera, select the 1-6 like you did with film;
3) Send those to whatever folder your computer uses for its desktop background and set them to rotate after, say 10 minutes or some such amount of time;
4) Let them stay there for the requisite 3-4 days or a week or until your next import. You'll see them enough that you'll do the same thing you did before.

Obviously, there are flaws in this, like not being able to see them because you have windows open and over the top of them. Screensaver instead of desktop background? A good digital frame hanging/sitting in your kitchen/pool shed?

Anyway, you get the idea...

Mike, I'm impressed. I read it the second time and again I feel you should have shown us more of your favorite pictures. Even prints with failures are helpful for others.
Thank's for posting it again. Today was the right day for me to read it.It encourages.

Show some more pictures.One of your gifted readers posts regularly pictures at flickr and it's fun to look at them. He's a pentax man.

Christine

It’s kind of amusing that you have to clarify what fine print means. Is your reader base getting younger? Or maybe most older folks have already given up on film and completely forgot about it?

Very useful - thanks :-)

Question: How would you go about selecting what goes into a book of 200 pictures from a collection of 2-3.000 ? They are all pictures of people, taken over the last 30 years, and I have already split them into five themes, which appears to help somewhat. I would also want to pair them meaningfully. Any help would be appreciated !!

Merle has a great idea, putting them in a file and using them as wallpaper for a week or so. Pretty much mirrors your old method. The weakness, of course, is that you don’t print anymore.

While in France I purchased one of the cheaper Epson Ecotank printers for our house. To my amazement I found that it makes pretty good color prints and usable black and white ones on Epson Exhibition Fiber. The black ink is pigment so more long lasting. Works very quickly from Photoshop.

Just a thought

Hey Mike,

Today, paper is poverty. I'm looking at options to archive some definitive versions of my photographic corpus. Buying my own largish printer seems to be inevitable alongside print-on-demand books. The overhead of just doing test prints and books is kinda financially staggering. Paper and ink costs a lot of money - even before tariffs.

Anyone out there in film photography want a Beseler 23C II XL enlarger with 120 universal glass carrier and 35mm carrier and contact sheet frames and a color dichro head (VC and color printers understand this) and the standard condenser head. I'll throw in the really great 50mm and 80mm Rodenstock lenses too! I imagine it's all worth less than my last run to Chipotle.

Making awesome darkroom prints is a dying art. Digital is a great way to stave off the inevitable devaluation of the true photographic art print. Sitting with pics over time is really good advice but folks today are very impatient and lack the attention span to recognize the subtlety and nuance that this practice produces. I intend to put the effort in anyway - because what else am I doing? I will say that looking at my latest digital images in Adobe Bridge is kinda like looking at a good ol' contact sheet with a loupe - depending on the zoom setting.

Ahhh, if only David Vestal were here to give us all a pep talk,
Ed

Still very relevant for those of us shooting to print, and I'm not sure much has changed. Despite what is now years of trying, I still can't pick images that will print well from those that only look great on a screen. (I assume the differences is because of front lighting vs back lighting.) Fortunately, it is now much cheaper and easier to produce the prints. I use Epson enhanced matt on an Epson p900 printer filling about 75% (for ease of handing) of an A4 sheet (cheapest and simplest size in Oz). Voila - work prints!. Pin 'em up, look, wait, rinse and repeat. Having chosen, it is also now much easier to create the fine print - I go back and work up any changes to the work print to my satisfaction at A4 - then print a final draft on the same paper at A2. If satisfied, I print on the final paper of choice (usually Hahnemuhle photo rag 500 gsm at A2). Most of the prints are now so exactly square on the paper straight out of the printer that I just print to 80% of the paper size and rely on the heavy paper (almost card) and don't bother to matt. The print just slots into an off the shelf A2 frame and onto the wall it goes. (I have museum quality glass cut for me at A2 and just replace the cheap acrylic that comes with the frame with the glass.) If I need a larger print for exhibition or sale, I just upscale to A1 or A0 and upload it with my local printers (Image Print, North Melbourne) - since they use the same paper (although lighter), no other changes are needed.

Great post Mike. Thanks for sharing.

The process has changed, but I find the need for test prints is really the same if you happen to be one of the few who still print today.

I recently posted on Flickr a test print of a photo using the original Ricoh APS-C camera taken in Cuba in 2014. I was prompted to look at these old prints since I’ve been asked to write an article about printing with the new Ricoh GR IV. I still haven’t figured out how I’ll do this, since prints are supposed to be held and it’s almost impossible to show the nuances of the tones and textures using different papers with images on-line.

https://flic.kr/p/2roNm4Q

The biggest difference from my darkroom days is I now make my test prints at the size I’m intending to use for exhibition using the paper I’ve chosen. And, since we have a large span of wall in our house that’s open, my dear wife lets me tape all the test prints here so I can see how they look at different times of the day. I can usually tell within two weeks which prints are fine and which ones need a little more work.

I realize you won’t do this, but with your love of shooting black and white with your Sigma, you really should start printing again. And you’d be able to share your experience here on TOP, which I’m sure many of your readers would thoroughly enjoy.

Thanks, Mike. Always a treat when someone who has mastered a craft shares their methods, process and thinking. No matter how individualized, there are almost always things of value for others, whether those others are one or many. I hope this process gets recorded on video someday.

I spent quite a bit of time reverse-engineering the editing workflow of a photographer for my PhD, and it's fascinating how these procedures both have to follow rules and force you to introduce new ones as you go along. No matter how strict the regimen you impose yourself, you will always need to add (or remove) rules.

What's more, when you revisit old proof sheets, you come to them with a different angle and will notice different things, but prior decisions will impact later ones. Editing on contact sheets is a long-term conversation with oneself.

If any of you are interested, I wrote an article about the whole process, freely available here: https://revistas.ucm.es/index.php/ANHA/article/view/83075/4564456561491

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