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Might be fun to set up a trail camera in your kitchen, catch the comings and goings. There are lots of trail camera videos online, maybe you can start a new indoor trail trend.

I keep meaning to set up a time lapse in our living room when we're away to see what our cat does when she's alone and can't pester us to play with her.

Any live trapped animal has to be taken twice their range for release to ensure that they don't return. In the case of a mouse that is 3 miles away. You went farther than necessary. That said, it is illegal to relocate nuisance animals in NY (and several other states), leaving killing them as your only legal option, or at least not publicly posting your actions. The logic, I am told, is the relocation is cruel, and 90% of relocated animals don't survive. I am puzzled how they could possibly know that. Is DEC taking animal censuses? The other puzzle to me is that DEC relocates nuisance bears. I'm not sure how they rationalize that.

[But...he's only a nuisance when he's in my kitchen. When he's out in a field or the woods, he's just a mouse. There are lots of them around.

P.S. And you're right, that 90% figure sure does sound like a monkey-butt number, as my late brother Scott used to say. What happens when there's a forest fire? All the lucky animals relocate. In a hurry, no time to grab the family pictures. Do they all die anyway? --Mike]

Releasing rodent pests in the wild?

Your stocks just went up. We do that too. Same reasons as you. They're sentient beings and they're part of the food chain. They deserve a fighting chance. Being cute is subjective, but I find most mice pull it off pretty easily.

In our neck of the woods, it's native rats. They are the cutest, most inquisitive dudes that have ever evered.

Two minor nerdish comments. Snakes have venom, not poison - some snakes that is. The difference is whether it's injected (venom) or either absorbed through skin or eaten (poison). See https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/venomous-poisonous-snakes-toxins for a lot more on the topic. Also, spiders aren't insects; they're arachnids.

There's a saying about possums where I live (they are a protected species and seriously illegal to kill/trap/handle without a licence but can be a complete nuisance) that any relocation has to cross at least two rivers and a freeway.

You will be less charitable toward invading mice if you find their droppings on your silverware. I vote for filling the bucket with water.
Don't worry, mice are not remotely endangered, nature will provide more.
My sister in law had a nuisance wildlife guy trap a racoon in her attic. She refused to consider ending its felonious life, so the wildlife guy released it more than 25 miles away. Within two days it was back in her attic. No mercy this time.

Re: 90%

We are all subjected to lots of statistical data these days. I am often struck by a number when I can’t imagine how someone could have possibly measured it. Like the 90% fatality rate quoted above.

But I’m always happy to be educated.

I'm surprised someone else hasn't mentioned the snake thing. Poisonous would only be a concern if you were eating it. Many snakes have venom that they inject when they bite you, they are venemous.

You mentioned a weasel in this post and I recently saw my first weasel in the wild. I was hiking in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest when I decided to leave the trail and climb a nearby hill to survey the area. At the top of the hill I found the weasel lying on his side in the sunshine but he was no more. He was an ex-weasel. I made a phone pic and later learned that it was a long-tailed weasel. I was impressed with how nice his fur/coat was…except for a spot on his upper back where the fur was a little mussed as if a coyote, bobcat or Mexican wolf had snatched him up, crushed him and then dropped him where he lay. The summer fur on the weasels belly is a rich yellow color. I don’t think I’ve ever seen yellow fur on a wild animal before. It was interesting.

I wouldn’t worry about killing the mice. I think the females are sexually mature at two months and carry a litter for less that a month. A female can produce a small army of little ones in her first year. Out here in the West these mice are known for carrying hantavirus.

I was so certain the resolution of the mouse tale involved your driving home five miles only to discover Mickey had made it back ahead of you.

Yeah, we could spare the food (especially if they wasted less; they tend to nibble this and nibble that and nibble the other thing), but cleaning up the droppings and sanitizing the surface pushes them solidly out of the friend zone.

We do have 3 entirely adequate hunters living here, so sneaking into our house is not a wise choice for the little buggers.

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