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Wednesday, 07 May 2025

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Sometimes we think that having the most expensive camera makes you a better photographer.
When I was a student at BU the professor made us take a Brownie Hawkeye camera and shoot pictures. Taking the simple camera (iphone) and taking photos will show you how good a photographer you really are.
Bill

The start of your essay brings to mind Dorothes Lange's memorable quote:
"A camera is an instrument that teaches us to see without a camera".

I don't really like this phrase: "the wrong camera". I get what we are trying to express with it, but I think that this framing leads a lot of camera hobbyists get into this mode where they are convinced they have to take everything along, just in case. And this is just as bad as not having the machine you want when the perfect picture opportunity presents itself.

I am reminded of a person I saw once trudging around Paris with a giant rolling suitcase full of (film) cameras and lenses and a giant tripod taking tourist snapshots of all the tourist snapshot things, in really bad slightly hazy noon time sunlight. I feel like this is just as bad as having only your phone with you when you wanted your 4x5 with tilt/shift.

I agree that modern small digital cameras (iPhones maybe, but the high end point and shoots certainly) really capture what we think of as the "Leica" point of view, which is that a small camera that you know is good enough for you is better to carry around than a huge machine that you feel less comfortable using.

But the real reason I decided to comment was for this gratuitous photo link... the other weekend I was at a music festival organized by Rhiannon Giddens and my small camera that is utterly unsuited to taking concert photos from far away happened to get this shot during the grand finale of the best show of the weekend. And I still can't believe it happened.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/79904144@N00/54480256396/in/dateposted-public/

I'm generally not much of a people picture taker but getting lucky and capturing all this happiness makes me think I should try harder in the future.

Your point about your experience with the Olympus XA not being equal enough to the Contax is what frustrates me with the digital world. Manufacturers update the sensors so often that consistency is all but impossible. Back in the day (does that make me sound old?) I could load film in my old Nikon FE2 and the same film in my F3, and with the same lens, could get identical results.

Today, even with the same lens, cameras just a few years apart will have a totally different rendering, making apples to oranges comparison more like grapes to watermelons.

Fujifilm for a time was my answer to this when they'd put out a range of bodies in various sizes and capabilities, but all with the same sensor and processor. I had the X-T2 for my considered SLR style shooting, the X-Pro2 for my street grab shot rangefinder style shooting, and my tiny X-E3, my digital equivalent to the Olympus XA but with interchangeable lenses. Every one of these gave exactly the same results making camera selection only based on size viable without feeling that you might get that once in a lifetime shot on a "lesser" capture.

Today it would be 12mp versus 40-plus mp, and no amount of post processing will equal those things out.

FWIW, back in the '80s I had the Olympus XA, always loaded with Kodachrome. I have great slides that I wouldn't have if I didn't have that tiny camera. Maybe it's best to not compare and just get the shot.

Speaking of B&W portraits...

https://www.gallery51.com/artist/jacques-sonck/

yes

"Sometimes I don't think I love photography so much as I just love looking. "

Hear, hear!

I didn't really see the world until I took up digital photography in my 40s, and participated in photo challenges on a very friendly Fuji forum. Every week or so was a different way to interpret what was there all the time around me but ignored.

“my advice has always been to do something else for money and be an amateur photographer”. Many take that path. I’ve just finished reading the autobiography by Oscar Peterson, in which he relates how enthusiastic a photographer he was – to the point of taking darkroom chemicals and equipment with him when he was on tour. He must have got your advice somewhere, however he isn’t famous for his writing or his photography so I think he made the right career choice.

Mike, your posts are good to read and I enjoy them very much, even though I may not come up with a witty and insightful comment. That's great advice at the end of your post, I may not be young but its still good advice to people of any age.

Wrong camera: surely, the thing to do is to use the camera you've got to capture the images it's best suited for? There will be*always* be images that camera isn't suited for; either ignore them, or make a note and come back later with a different camera.

I suppose the corollary to my first point is to identify what it is that you generally find arresting when you're out and about, and make sure that the camera you've got with you is suited to capturing those images. That might be an iPhone or it might not be, in which case trying to use the iPhone will be an exercise in frustration.

For me, it's flowers these days, and the iPhone is well suited to that.

"For it to have been a complete body of work I would have had to continue until I had three or four times as much work as that, at least.": defining it "manquè" implies a goal that has arbitrarily set in this case by you Mike only.
What you declare is a psychological or existential state rather than a formal artistic category.
Many people would surely feel accomplished by getting this far in their pursuiit.

The problem with camera phones, I think, is that we’ve come to a point where they are absolutely great, but, er, not that great.
You could make a portfolio shooting with nothing but an iPhone and the image quality would be astonishing (talking about technology here, not art). It’s just when compared to ‘real cameras’ that you start noticing they don’t belong there. They are almost there, but almost, falling short for just a decimal point.
A pin hole picture in the middle of some great fine art would look great, their image quality is so far apart that it can stand out. In that scenario, a picture shot with a 2005 camera phone would cause the same effect.
A 2025 iPhone picture, on the other hand, would be seen as a technically good picture that shouldn’t have make the cut.

Okay, so what I'm seeing here is that it may be bad to become too sensitive to small details in photos—Mike is describing being unable (at least sometimes) to mix Contax and XA photos in one project since they didn't, for him, match. Being less fussy might well have let more projects flow to completion.

Of course, being less fussy might also lead fussy people to not be impressed by the resulting projects. Are the "important" people fussy? Critics, reviewers, influencers, customers, professors, whatever?

I'm also skeptical about the "look" arguments, ever since the guy who got me into Leicas back in college asked me if a particular photo was shot with my Leica and 90mm Summicron—and it was actually shot with my Pentax and a Tamron Adapatall 85-200 zoom. That might have been just him (but, to be fair, that zoom was vastly better than it deserved to be; the one definite fault was blazoned on the box, max aperture f/4.5-5.6).

Am I just sloppy and not very observant? Quite possible. When I think I can see things, I can generally still see them if I manage to construct a properly blind trial, but I haven't had (or created) the chance to test other people that way. It's a kind of aggressive thing to do, and I'm more interested in maintaining collegial relations with other photographers I find interesting.

The real successor of the XA is the Sony RX100, especially the VA version with its short, bright zoom lens and startlingly good popup viewfinder. It is almost the same size as the XA although a bit heavier, and can be carried everywhere in a biggish pocket or smallish belt pouch. Image quality (if you care about that sort of thing) is excellent except in very low light. Long ago, my father shot an entire picture story using nothing but an XA, a big bag of film, and a French rail pass https://pro.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&ALID=2K7O3R1VUF5N . If he were doing the same thing today I have no doubt he would have an RX100 in his pocket.

Hiya.

Here I am, coming in late because I'm always playing catch up. Is prompt manqué a thing?

Speaking of which, here's a song, by a different Dean.

https://youtu.be/n5DPoBuHAyE?si=_ON2czBgo_nmaEbr

Peace, and associated good stuff,
Dean

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