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As an avid amateur cook, I dislike cook-books, especially for dishes. (Cakes and similar are a different story).

My usual method when I want to cook a specific dish, is to look through a number of recipes online (any number between 2 and 5, depending on variance and availability), and note the similarities between them.

That will tell you the vital ingredients for that dish. Most things that differ will be personal touches by the author of that specific recipe, and can generally be left out.

Take those common ingredients, add whichever of the optional ones fit your personal tastes, and try that. If you like it, great. If you don't, try other variations on the 'optionals'.

This has two advantages: One: You usually end up with a much simpler recipe, and in cooking, less is often more. Two: You generally need to buy fewer ingredients, as you can focus the optional ingredients on those you already have, or which interest you.

Not anything that I can disagree with.

It all starts with interest.

Sounds like Pete and I are from the same tribe. Right down to the parboiling. If my greens don't have the bright, bright green of a flash of heat (in either oil or water), they just look dead to me. The exception is some regional dishes -- for instance, I generally cook collards for a short time on high heat, but love them stewed too they way they do it in the southern US.

I enjoy cooking, It started with me wanting to make restaurant quality Marinara and Tex Mex Chili. I then branched out into other Italian dishes, Cajun inspired recipes and recently Spanish influenced cuisine.
New England style seafood is also on the menu. Tuesday's stuffed flounder was beyond expectation. We seldom eat out considering the cost.

Interesting comment with which I partially concur. One recent book that might be of interest is Rebecca May Johnson's Small Fires. She cooked the same dish hundreds of times, and reflects on that, but also on the the cooking with and without a recipe thing via a discussion of one of Mrs Beaton's. And I learned from her that Mrs Beaton, who we think of as rather matronly, died at the age of only 28 having gone into labour while correcting the proofs of an abridged version of her great work.

I think you are missing the critical criteria that would make you a great cook.

Other people to cook for!

People you care about. Food made with love. A shared meal. Like the difference between playing guitar in your bedroom and jamming live in front of an audience.

You want better chops, do it for the enjoyment of others Mike.

"For me most recipes are too complicated and fussy because they are trying to ride a line between the enthusiasts and the not interested/beginner, and so tend to have too much information for the former group and not enough for the latter, while also giving everyone too much work to do."

and

"Ultimately, really, the secret to getting good at cooking is the following very unsatisfying piece of advice: you have to cook a lot. Then you'll get good at it. But that's hardly helpful for people without the interest."

Is this really OT? Because it sounds a lot like my experience with photography instruction.

I used to cook professionally, so I got a lot of the practice out of the way early and on someone else's dime.

Early on in my marriage, I used to work in the kitchen, setting up building blocks for the week ahead, and my wife would ask what I was cooking, expecting to learn the end result. Actually, I had no idea, but it got me closer to something. Roasted red peppers, a pie crust, caramelized onions (the several hour variety), preserved lemons, it would all come in handy. Now, she asks less, and I get closer to completed dishes during my prep time.

In photography terms, it's the scouting work you do to set up an image. Or pre-arranging the lights for a studio portrait session. That's the real work. If you think you are going to send it from nothing, you're setting yourself up for failure.

This resonated with me. I am not a cook. Growing up I had no idea what was happening in the kitchen. As proof I offer a few things from when I was out on my own and trying to cook:

I wanted to make my mother's chocolate frosting for a cake. I got her recipe and went shopping. I couldn't find scalded milk anywhere.

I wanted to make mashed potatoes. I peeled some potatoes, put them in a bowl and started trying to mash them. "Damn this is hard."

I didn't understand a lot of words in recipes. "Sauté? Why didn't they just say "fry."

I eventually got a copy of "The Joy of Cooking" which thankfully has a section of definitions.

I'm still not a cook. I can cook anything as long as there are clear directions on the package.

One final story. After I was drafted into the Army I got to my first assignment. As the new guy I was told to make the coffee. I had never made coffee in my life. There was one of those giant silver coffee pots. I opened it up and there was a basket for the grounds. So I filled that basket with coffee. They never asked me to make coffee again...

Chinese was the first food family I really learned to cook (I'd learned a few basic dishes from my mother, mostly by rote). Back in my first apartment, taking a break from college, in the mid 1970s. Before there was a Szechuan restaurant on every third corner.

I think, maybe, some of the cookbooks I found benefited from being written for Americans; they explained more things in detail (and also had appendixes on getting ingredients not then easily found in the Midwest).

(I did also have a copy, well, 3 copies, of The Joy of Cooking, which taught me a lot of American things over the years.)

At this point I think of myself as a decent home cook. I make up my own recipes, I'm pretty good at imagining flavor combinations.

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