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Thursday, 27 February 2025

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I believe Cosina leases rights to the Voigtländer name from RINGFOTO GmbH & Co. ALFO Marketing KG in Germany. And, Cosina produces these new Otus lenses with the Zeiss name on them.

And there is the famous Zeiss Super Ikonta B camera.

Otii (I took Latin in high school) have always been interesting lenses. When introduced, they were the best, the cat's meow, of lenses even though they were expensive, really expensive, heavy, huge, and manual focus only. I know a lot of serious photographers, and no one I know has ever purchased an Otus.

I have a Zeiss Batis f/2.8 135, spectacular quality, reasonable speed, relatively small, not cheap but not stratospheric in price. And AUTOFOCUS, with OIS.

I want people to have what they want. I always say buy anything you desire so long as you're not compromising your family's well being.

I do not see a future for these lenses, mostly because of size, and lack of autofocus. I own MF lenses but actually use them rarely. It's often just too challenging especially since I like to do focus stacking.

People buy hyper expensive manual focus lenses for M Leicas so perhaps these will sell better than expected.

Choice is good. Everyone should just have fun!

From petapixel: 'The target audience for this lens is going to be limited. Some photographers will value the old-school way of making lens corrections mechanically rather than with digital correction applied after the image is taken.'
I agree with this, what is all the fuss.

Zeiss haven’t really been away; over the recent years they have designed & had manufactured plenty of cine lenses. The Supreme range being a step up from the new ML range. Their Ultimate range of lenses sell for in excess of 20k per lens. Last year they introduced the Nano range of cine lenes, so they have been busy.

I’m glad Zeiss have returned to design a range of lenses intended for mirrorless cameras, though I do wish they had auto focus. I will not be buying the new 50mm f1.4 ML, I already have far too many 50mm lenses, including the 50mm Milvus which I bought off eBay last year at a staggeringly low price. It’s very sharp, but for me its rendering is clinical, when compared to my Contax Zeiss 50mm f1.4 & my Zeiss 50mm f1.4 ZE.

I also have the Voigtlander 50mm f2 Apo Lanthar, which is my preferred manual focus lens for general & landscape photography, with our Sony A7rV. It has stunning performance, is compact with great bokeh. I would choose any of the Apo Lanthar’s over anything Zeiss offers.

This week Cosina launched a new 28mm f2 Apo Lanthar in M mount, which should make it into E & Z mount next year and if it does, I will be tempted to buy one.

I wish Voigtlander made AF lenses for mirrorless cameras. As we know Zeiss do with the partnership they had, or still have with Sony. It’s been a long time since there were any new Sony Zeiss lenses, so maybe the partnership has ended. Perhaps you could say Sony have eclipsed Zeiss with their range of GM lenses, which are generally lighter than the competition & stellar optically, as are the lenses from Sigma too. We also have many new lenses coming out of China from various manufacturers. Just look at the range of LAB lenses coming from Viltrox, who also are looking to join the L alliance.

Did you notice that Schneider have partnered up with Samyang to design a very compact 12-24mm f2.8 lens?

We are in the golden age of lenses, there are so many choices, I just don’t know where Zeiss sits. They think they are at the top; their premium pricing suggests they think they are, but are they?


The standard lens, 50mm for full frame capture, has to be one of the most evolved optics in photography. That prices is hard to swallow, not to mention the size and weight. Buy a $500 50mm lens and spend $2000 on a trip to actually use it.

I appreciate Zeiss’s film-era optical excellence. (The 80mm Distagon on a Hasselblad 500-series camera remains a thing of perfection.). And also into the early digital years. I’ve owned several Zeiss lenses (mainly M and FE mounts) that were/are very smooth and sharp.

But as one early previewer (Chris Nichols) wondered, I also think the digital optical world has caught-up with, and far exceeded, Zeiss’s former distinctions. I’m sure these new (old) Otus (awful name 😩) lenses are fine. But “large”, “heavy”, “manual”, and “expensive” are not three keywords that point to success in today’s photo world.

There are three different "regular" Pentax 50 mm lenses available. The $333 lens you mentioned is the "Classic" which gives the rainbow flare wide open. It's not really the old design, owing to the rainbow flare feature. It's got the rounded aperture blades and an ND16 filter is included to make it easier to use the f/1.4 opening which reveals the rainbow flare. It has the SP coating.

The "old" version is the SMCP-FA lens which has the older coating. It's about $346.

The "newer" standard lens is the HD Pentax FA with the SP coating to resist dust and dirt. $326

All three of these lenses have aperture rings and go down to f/22.

The nearest lens to the Zeiss Otus 50 mm lens is the Pentax HD D-FA 50mm f/1.4 SDM AW Lens which has all the newer coatings and weighs 32.1 oz.! (You call a pound and a half heavy? 😂) It's got a newer ring-type ultrasonic autofocus motor, but no aperture ring. It has 15 elements in 9 groups and runs about $1,700.

I saw a "Yootoob" video (sorry, I didn't save the link) comparing this big lens against the newish HD FA 50 mm and there was a definite difference with the big and heavy lens. Distant tree leaves were noticeably better defined, for example.

If the manual focus Zeiss lenses have that nice well-damped (pre-autofocus) feel when you focus the lens, that may be enough for some to spend such money. But there are still older manual lenses for less money (and less avoirdupois).

His initial tripod-based shots didn’t overly impress him compared to the performance of the older Zeiss optics, particularly given the price point today..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs5P5ssehD8

ZEISS Otus, Milvus and Loxia lenses are no longer in production.

[It's possible. That was the rumor a few summers ago. But we haven't seen official confirmation of it, and the lenses are still featured on the Cosina website and the Zeiss website, and many of them are still in stock and even on floor display at B&H. --Mike]

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