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Saturday, 15 February 2025

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I believe the first photo is of Lana Turner visiting the studio long after her retirement from acting.

The second photo is Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock, captain of the U-Boat which hosted Lothar-Günther Buchheim, the author of "Das Boot."

My hypothesis would be that the lady is a former (famous) child actor returning to the film studios for the first time in decades. But that is pure speculation.

The man is clearly a German WW II U-Boat captain. I have seen him before, but his name escapes me. I believe that he was the one with the most “kills”.

One potential link could be the movie Das Boot ?

The top picture is Veronica Lake and the lower one is U-boat commander Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock, later played by Jürgen Prochnow in Das Boot. I can't work out the connection though.

Top photo - Veronica Lake
Bottom - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock
Look alikes?

Stumped...but the second one is a U-Boot captain. Checked it on the interwebby, and it's Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock. A rare one in that he survived the war---the U-Boot service had the worst survival record of all the Nazi services.

If you want a bit of Hollywood fluff starring Veronica Lake, try "I Married A Witch" with Fredrick March. It's the kind of picture that rises to the top of Amazon Prime during the annual Halloween run-up. Goofy practical effects. But you'll get what folks liked about Lake. She definitely had something the camera loved, and audiences along with it.

Burgess Meredith?

Is the chap in the photo wearing naval attire the German WW II U-boat captain, Gunther Prien? Prien sank 32 allied ships before he disappeared at sea with his crew and U-boat.

Re WWII allied bomber crews, see also the recent Apple TV drama series and companion documentary about the "jinxed" 100th bomber group, based on a book by Donald L. Miller. The series is Masters of the Air and the documentary is The Bloody Hundredth. Not a series I'm likely to rewatch, despite its impressive recreations of bombers, bases and air combat. Its dramatic potential was somewhat undermined by a sentimental halo, in contrast to, say, the grittier Das Boot. But perhaps that's something of a mercy. The most sobering thing about the 100th's story (or rather, storIES, many of which ended there) is that its losses were statistically average for the theater's bomber groups. It earned its reputation because those losses were concentrated in two particularly tragic missions.

A writeup at the national WWII museum: https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/bloody-100th-bomb-group

In the movie L.A. Confidential, which is set in the early 50’s, there is a group of prostitutes who have been styled and in some cases, surgically altered, to resemble popular Movie Stars of the time. Kim Basinger’s character, Lynn Bracken, is the Veronica Lake of the group. The similarity of her character with the real actress is uncanny.

In the spirit of this discussion, The Burmese Harp just aired on TCM. Highly recommended.

"Max . . . is played by Erich von Stroheim, an émigré director also discarded by Hollywood."

Going by the wikipedia entry for von Stroheim, it was more his disregard of film budgets that got him "released" as the director for several films. If true, it's a little different than "being discarded". (However, I don't know what sources you used.)

(During the making of Greed, in 1924, the production company (Goldwyn Pictures) merged into MGM. From wikipedia: "Originally almost eight hours long, Greed was edited against von Stroheim's wishes to about two-and-a-half hours. Only twelve people saw the full-length 42-reel version, now lost; some of them called it the greatest film ever made.")

Anyhow, Sunset Boulevard is one of the better movies I've ever seen. I watched it the first time on (maybe) TCM (Turner Classic Movies). Once you start watching, you'll likely have to watch it to the end.

I almost wanted to shout at the Joe Gillis character to get away from "Nora Desmond". You could tell that he was in deeper trouble than he knew.

The movie may have been released when color film was available, but this film, in my opinion, had to be in black and white. The old mansion wouldn't have had the same effect in color. All the dim corners of the rooms that made me look closely to see if something or someone were there.

I recognized Cecil B. DeMille and Buster Keaton, but I didn't recognize Hedda Hopper or Jay Livingston, or . . . (before my time)

The ending is surreal, but so appropriate.

Even better than the movie of "Das Boot" is the original TV series -- it kept me glued to my 8" portable when it was broadcast by the BBC (?) in the mid 1980s. White-knuckle stuff! The movie is basically a digest of the TV series.

"Heimat" was broadcast around the same time, also a real treat for those of us with a bit of German and an interest in an alternative p-o-v to most English language war films and TV, and a "how we got here" take on modern Germany.

Mike

The best version of Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard was Carol Burnett in her
TV show takeoff of Sunset Boulevard.

I saw Das Boot with an uncle of mine when it was in theaters. He served in a US submarine in WW2 in the Pacific theater and survived being depth charged. I still remember during an intense scene looking over and seeing sweat pouring down his face. After the movie he told me that was the best depiction of the pure hell and feeling of helplessness while being depth charged.

Agree, Das Boot is one of the great anti-war films.

I was a young lad in DC when it came out, about the same time the District started clamping heavy metal contraptions to the rear wheels of traffic ticket heavy offenders' vehicles. We called those clamps "Das boots" and the District traffic cops "gutter Gestapo". ;-)

I recently discovered the 1985 Soviet anti-war film Come and See, about WWII Belarus. It is powerful and highly recommended!

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