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I had the same experience with the G8 and the G9 after renting both. I ended up with two G8s and am still happy with them several years later. Renting is even better than in person shopping IMO.

Mike, regarding the back issues; I've had lower back problems since I was about 20. I had a L5-S1 microdiscectomy around 2001. The doc said that should hold me for about 10 years. Today--I've got virtually no back issues. I gave up tennis in my late 20s--now I can play without pain (not as well, sadly).

Two secrets: I lost quite a bit of weight with the WFPB diet (which I still 'mostly' do, but I had delicious lamb stew in Ireland a couple weeks ago). The other is that I took up Pilates about 6 years ago. I do a lot of Pilates (typically 4-6 times a week, including a private session weekly). Pilates is amazingly good for your core musculature, you work on strengthening muscles that are in a lengthened position, so you get some really solid strength without gaining a huge amount of bulk. I love it, I feel great (I look really good too). When I started I didn't want to be in group classes with a bunch of bendy women who knew what they were doing while I struggled with learning stuff, so I did private-only sessions for almost two years. Now that I'm in the group sessions I can up my frequency and get some variety in--I do reformer at least 3 days/week, some mat work, the private (where it can be a different 'apparatus' each time), and I've also started some barre and yoga. If you have a studio that's nearby, you might give it a try.

And in terms of at home equipment, I have a woman friend (who is in her early 70s) who has been using a Tonal for a couple years and is really loving that. It's not inexpensive, and it requires a subscription--but if you have an opportunity to try one, that might be another way forward. But I'd suggest Pilates first, under the guidance of someone who knows what they're doing.

This is so very true. Long ago I bought a Canon EF 70-200 f4. It's not a very "me" lens. It's not fast. It's not a prime. It's not...so very many things. I love that lens. We have a great relationship and have created many great moments together.

I still buy many items sight unseen, usually for work. But personally, LensRentals first, then I buy. There are too many nit picky things for me about cameras. Let me use it for a few days, I'll know how I'll generally get along with it.

I'd also add, all pieces of photo equipment, for me at least, are relationships. Some work, some don't, some have oddities in them that make them interesting. All the same descriptors I can use for my relationships with people I can use with photo equipment. Relationships are complex, and that's the fun.

A note on the Concept2 rowing machine: don't buy that model D from Amazon, unless you really want to toss Mike some affiliate money (nothing wrong with that!). Buy the current model, essentially identical but simply called the "RowErg," directly from Concept2 for hundreds less. https://www.concept2.com/ergs/rowerg

I have one and I love it, but I have my back, not Mike's.

For a long time now I've been in the habit of renting a camera from Lens Rentals if I'm thinking of buying one. My thinking is that if I do wind up buying, yes, the cost of the rental will increase my net cost of purchase. But if I rent the camera for a week or two and find that it's not for me for a tactile or intuitive reason that can't be found out there on the internet, I'll be out much less.

This happened with the original LX100. I rented one for a trip to NYC. I found it to be a fine piece of kit, but rapidly discovered that it just didn't suit my hands. Purely a personal thing - others mileage may vary.

I had a slightly different experience with the Panasonic GX9. Rented one with the kit lens. I liked the camera - a lot - returned it and bought one. But then I ran into another problem with the 'rent before buying' scheme. I was hit with GAS when making the purchase and got the Leica/Panasonic 12-60 instead of the kit lens. Don't get me wrong - it's an excellent lens, probably the best zoom lens I've personally owned and used, but I'm not quite as happy with the heft and balance as I was with the (also very good) kit lens.

So, the moral of that is to try to get as close to the configuration you're considering buying as posible. Eyes open.

Next rental will be the Leica D-Lux 8. Looking forward to your thoughts on that.

I've never met a camera I didn't like, except for one that turned out to be an expensive piece of furniture with a terrible staining job. I, too, bought it 'off paper' and quickly sent it back!

Things I have tried buying on the internet, and regretted: almost everything at least once or twice, from mattresses to couches to washing machines. I get lucky sometimes, of course. And with cameras, I often know what to expect. Software is probably my biggest weakness. I have cycled through way too much software that I end up hating or just not using, always going back to what I know (in my case Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop). I'm currently sitting on my nicest and favorite couch ever, made in the USA, sold by a local dealer where I could at least examine the fabric and sit on sample couches, and pick out a color and weave. I have another couch in the basement I bought new off the internet after reading all the great reviews, and it's going nowhere but the landfill after I finally get done with it. Garbage in, garbage out.

Rental houses in Los Angeles used to offer “weekend rentals”. So cheap guys like me would pick up the gear on Friday night and not have to return it until Monday morning. All for the price of a one day rent.
Good way to try out lots of stuff at a bargain.

Great advice! But impossible for those of us who don't live anywhere near a camera store that sells what we (think) we want to buy.

When I was shopping for my first DSLR many years ago, I did a fair amount of research and narrowed the candidates down to the Canon EOS 20D and Nikon D70S. The Canon was dearer, but the specifications were better, and (to be honest) it would have allowed me to take a step away from my Nikon-shooting extended family. I think I even downloaded the manuals and studied them for a while. The big day arrived; it was time to try out the candidates in-hand and make a purchase. I went into the shop, confident that I'd be buying a Canon that day. I spent a few minutes with each of the demonstration bodies ... and walked out with a Nikon D70S. (It's still going strong after more than 80,000 frames, far longer than I'd expected it to last.)

I totally agree with you. Both for the reasons you list about not being able to tell is you really like something without actually using it, but also because (at least for me) acquiring new gear has an element of lust to it. I fall in love with the idea of the thing or of buying it. It seems to activate certain parts of my brain, fire off the dopamine or whatever. I have found that if I wait a little longer before hitting the "buy now" button this sometimes subsides. Sometimes it doesn't subside until the package has arrived and I hold it in my hands. I have had to learn to differentiate between these sorts of almost compulsive "wants" and what I really need to accomplish what I want to accomplish.

Mark VII - that reminds me of the Baroque Lincoln Continental Mark "personal luxury coupes." These illogical excesses in sheet metal soldiered on until the demographic for personal luxury coupes faded away. Sort of like the demographic for big excess DSLRs....

Shame the rowing machine didn't suit you. I have a bad back and having a rowing machine has only helped it. There are many causes so many solutions. Hope you find your solution soon.

With regard to rowing machines. I have one in my bedroom that I use reasonably frequently. It is very similar to the one you nearly bought.

Some years ago I started off at about five minutes and gradually went up to twenty minutes. (By the way, my technique is push with the legs first, then pull with the arms). Then my lower back went. My Harley Street physiotherapist friend told that rowing machines can be bad for your back, so I now stick to about five minutes and no more.

Regarding the back issue, I have found kneeling on steps, arms/elbows on upper step and pushing lower back out a great help. Many times. Seems to have strengthened muscles reducing the ache. Just a thought from an old guy.

I agree, seeing the "thing" in person, handling it, manipulating it is superior to buying it from an online source sight unseen. I've been on a watch binge lately, and I have bought every watch from the internet. The people that use to do food photography, making dishes look so delicious must have moved on to watch photography.

I can't tell you how many times that I open a package after spending hours looking at various watches online and picking what I'm sure will be the perfect model only to be totally shocked at how different the actual watch looks on my wrist. I literally have a dozen multi-hundred dollar watches sitting unused because they are not what I was sure I was buying from the beautifully photographed images of that same watch in perfect light.

I miss stores.

I've been rowing on the water and on a machine for close to 40 years. The Concept II machines are the best of what's out there and used by rowing clubs the world over, so your research was good. However, rowing has a very particular technique, and I have seen some health club employees give terrible and clueless instruction on using a rowing machine. Your bad experience could have been as simple as the machine being set at a too high resistance. The Concept II website has excellent instructional videos; have a look at those and see if your lesson was in fact correct. A quick online search shows that there are a few rowing clubs in your area. Visit one of those and see if they can help you. You might even be tempted to take a beginner's on-the-water course. My personal inspiration continues to be the rower at my club that I encountered rowing on his 80th birthday. FWIW, I used to have terrible back problems, which I've overcome; rowing wasn't the problem.

I am lucky here, on the other side of the pond. There is a real camera shop only 10 miles away, with friendly and helpful staff. Shops are getting rarer but still there are a few left.
As soon as I bought the Fuji x-t1 I knew it was made for me. I am on the x-t5 now and still in love, but I know some hate it. Yes, you really have to try a camera before you buy.

If it's possible for you, swimming is the best exercise if you have a bad back.

Women around these here parts sum up men pretty quickly using Virgil's heuristic: 'Ex uno disce omnes.’

Lucky for me, my wife is from out of town, or I would not have seen the dawn, let alone the summer.

["From one, learn all," or, from one instance infer the whole. --Mike the Ed.]

I was entirely smitten by the nikon Zf having used an FE2 during the formative years of my photography education, and even planned to trade in my Z5 for one. decided to attend a touch and try event and to my surprise i could not get comfortable with the infernal machine even with the added grip and the two smallest nikkors they had at the event - the 26 and the 40. it's definitely a great idea to always get the camera in hand before committing to it.

Why not just buy your whatever from Amazon, try it for a week or so and return it if you don't like it for any reason. That's Amazon's offer so why not take advantage of it?

With the demise of so many brick and mortar camera stores, it's understandable that people shop "on paper." I agree that renting prior to a major purchase is great albeit sometimes expensive. I saved $3k by renting the lovely Sony 12-24 f/2.8. I took it to the Oregon coast where I realized the huge front element and lack of easy filters made an otherwise great lens just not workable for me. I also rented the 85 f/1.4 GM and found its slow noisy autofocus and lack of sharpness wide open also just wasn't my cup of tea. Even so, I still have too many lenses.

I'm fortunate to live in an area with a quite nice camera store but I suspect they too are under severe pressure. They no longer carry Canson paper, which I use almost exclusively, and seem to emphasize video and "content creator" things. They had hardly any ink the last time I was in.

We'll see what eventuates over time but I suspect things are not getting better.

Unfortunately, many people will "try on" a camera at a good retail store (a vanishing breed) and have it thoroughly explained to them, and then buy the camera online. Very bad form. They're contributing to the decline of good camera retailers. Renting is a a much better and more ethical way to go.

Keep experimenting, Mike! Different strokes for different folks (sorry, couldn't help myself). We owned a Concept II years ago when my daughter was on a crew team in high school, and enjoyed it as much as one can enjoy an indoor stationary machine. OTOH, the family is blessed with healthy backs.

Regarding try-before-you-buy, I am about to do just that. I enjoy my Fuji X100V, but missed the image stabilization of my X-T5. So, upgrade to the X100VI ... which B&H tells me will arrive in December. Hmm. I've been intrigued by the stratospherically expensive Leica Q3 but there's no way I'm gonna plunk down that kind of cash unless it solves all the worlds problems (or at least kicks more fun into my photography). At any rate, I head for Pro Photo Supply in Portland this afternoon to pick it up for a weekend of play. I rather hope I don't like it...

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