Happy Juneteenth! Especially to anyone who is gathering today.
The previous post got a lot of interest, and a large number of relevant and interesting comments—just the Featured Comments and my inline responses are up to almost 1,900 words (!) as of this morning. Not everything was about the effect of a small vs. a large camera on subjects, though, so I thought I'd continue the subject of photographing people in public in a new post.
I remembered another of Cartier-Bresson's tricks. Again, don't recall where I read this. But apparently if someone got too antagonistic to him in a crowd, he would fling his camera right in the person's face! It was attached to his wrist with a lanyard, and he would jerk it back before it hit them, and then, before they could recover, abruptly turn on his heels and disappear into the crowd (something he was also apparently very good at doing—several eyewitness accounts mention that he seemed to be there one moment and gone the next).
I couldn't do that. Not that I wouldn't, just that I couldn't. Not coordinated or quick enough. With any of this, you have to accommodate to the skills as well as to the authentic personality you happen to have. You need to know who you are, how people react and respond to you, and then adjust your methods and expectations to match. Here are few more tips for photographing in public, from which you'll have to pick and choose:
—>Shoot first, then ask permission. When you see a picture, it seldom lasts for long. Someone will move or turn away or something will get in your way, etc. So take the picture while it's there. Then go up and ask if it's okay. If they say yes, take a few more and thank them. If they say no, agree respectfully.
—>Be fast. If you stand there adjusting your camera like an idiot for minutes on end, it's more likely that you'll call attention to yourself.
—>We mentioned in the other post the advantage of a waist-level finder of some sort. People aren't threatened unless they feel they're being stared at; we're sensitive to others paying undue attention to us. If you've never shot with a TLR, it's kind of magical. You're always looking down, looking like you're distracted with whatever that device is. People aren't put on alert.
—>Own it! That is, if you're a photographer, be blatant about the fact that you are. Draping yourself with a few extra cameras helps. I have friends who have used fake ID cards in holders on those little fabric necklaces, or just used an old one from a show or a job or something. This is also the utility of vests, in my opinion, although I've never worn one. For men, a bucket hat doesn't hurt. Nothing says "I'm a photographer and I'm not hiding it" like a photo vest and a dorky hat.
—>Have a friend with you. I can only report that if you're a larger male, being in the company of another person—especially a female—works wonders. People, women in particular, seem to think, well, she trusts him, so he's probably all right.
—>Take rejection. Some people will say no just because they live miserable little lives and they want to lay some of their intense inner misery on others, and now it's your turn. Be impervious. You have to hear "no" to get to "yes."
—>Of course, engaging with people isn't forbidden. As I said the other day, most good people photographers are friendly, confident, casual, assured, natural, and good at engaging. (Most of these tips are for those of us who aren't.)
—>Get started. This is a big one for me, and might not be for you. I feel self-conscious and awkward for the first few dozen shots, before I get into it and things start flowing. So I'm ready for this. I get those initial shots done and out of the way as soon as possible. YMMV.
—>Have a job. I mean, if you've been hired to be somewhere photographing, then you have permission, and is there anything stopping you from taking your own pictures along the way? A lot of pros will probably respond here by saying yes, there certainly is: it's that you need to focus on what you were hired for and not do your own sh*t on your client's time. I won't disagree. My problem is that I do it inadvertently, because sometimes I can't distinguish one from the other—that is, the pictures I've been hired to take from the pictures I just think are good. So I end up occasionally making a personal picture on someone else's dime. Not ideal, I guess, but there it is. You never know when the good pictures are going to come.
—>An obvious one is that when a crowd has gathered because something is going on, people expect photographers to be there taking pictures. Peoples' normal vigilance relaxes. Any place where the mood is festive and people have gathered is an opportunity. Exception: when there's some sort of barrier to entry. You can't crash a family reunion or a birthday party in a public park, for instance—or a Juneteenth gathering of families or friends who know each other, for that matter.
—>Be young and hip-looking. If you're young and hip, you're probably doing something new and blazing new trails on social media! People will want to get on board. If you're an old grayhair, you're doggedly pursuing a hopeless dream and already haven't amounted to anything, like a middle-aged guy with rock-and-roll hair struggling to show off to teenagers at Guitar Center.
—>Speaking of which, there are now many "influencers" who make videos of themselves taking pictures on the street, like this guy. Watch those videos and see what's working for them. What they say, their tone of voice. (But note the above.)
—>Hang out with better shooters and watch them work. Imitate what you can, if you can. See if anything they do is something you can adapt for yourself.
—>If anyone challenges you, be forthright. Walk right up to them with a smile, offer your hand for a handshake, and tell them your name. Have a line ready that explains what you're doing. I learned this during the photographers-are-terrorists years. Offering your card is also a good touch (the guy at the link above shows his work on his phone, which is obviously the modern version). I guess people assume that terrorists don't identify themselves, so, if you do, it's reassuring. :-)
Mike
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Featured Comments from:
David Raboin: "The hardest part of getting started with street photography is getting started. Those first few outings feel about as comfortable as a suit made of wasps. When I first went out with the intent of shooting candid photos of strangers, not only did I feel like a bumbling, unwanted oaf, but my first street photos were rotten, hundreds of boring pictures sent to the recycling bin.
"I'm not sure why I kept at it, but I did. In a short time, figured out a way of being on the streets with a camera. My photos got better and street photography became fun. My advice to aspiring street photographers: embrace the discomfort. That discomfort is the feeling of change happening. The discomfort is also a barrier to entry. Not everyone will become a street photographer."
Juan Buhler: "The waist-level finder thing is relative in my opinion. I find that whether I am comfortable or not making pictures in the street is mostly a state of mind. Some times I’m in the zone, and I will quickly compose and focus in the viewfinder. Some other times I am more in the mood for a Ricoh GR-style, from the hip (in my case this is mostly next to my face instead), not looking through viewfinder or screen, and composing by feel. And yet some other times, I feel super shy, and no amount of looking down into the screen of my X100V can fix it.
"It’s all in your mind. Convince yourself you are a street photographer, and you will be."
Ed. note: Juan, who worked for Pixar when I knew him, is a talented and accomplished street photographer.
Kye Wood: "Of course, the other way to get to take any photo you ever want to take is to have a warm heart like Peter Turnley. He has a presence that inspires collaboration—because his intentions are pure and he radiates that."
David Saxe: "I have been doing this for years and I would offer the following suggestions. Just hang around for a few moments when you see something interesting. If people notice you they will lose interest in you very quickly and then you can take your shot. Never make direct eye contact with your subject. Move slowly but deliberately when raising the camera to your eye. (fast, jerky movements attract the subject's attention.) Don't linger. Take one one or two shots and quickly move on."
Bob Gordon: "I’ve been shooting street for almost 60 years. Age and health require me to walk with a cane. Old guy, gray hair, camera. No threat."
I have to say, I've always been uncomfortable doing street photography. I just don't want the confrontation.
Posted by: Malcolm Myers | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 11:49 AM
One of the best peices of advice for quick shooting on the street was something that I read in the book "Leica M: Advanced Photo School" by Gunter Osterloh back in the '80s.
The ability to "see" the framing without actually viewing makes quick spontaneous shots more likely to succeed. Towards that end, Osterloh gave a formula from the Leica school regarding the 35mm lens. With that focal length, the distance from the subject is equal to the horizontal coverage with the camera held in landscape orientation. If you are 10 feet from a wall, you'll capture 10 feet of that wall side-to-side. No need to get out a tape measure, just learn to eyeball it and you'll know where to stand to get the shot in front of you. With practice, you will find yourself in the right place before you even lift your camera if you choose to use the viewfinder.
Add a zone focused lens and you'll be very fast on the street. If you wear the camera on a neck strap at mid chest, then it will be level and you need only hit the shutter release with your right thumb.
I still use this technique today with my Fuji and the 23mm f/1.4 which has a DOF scale when you pull back the clutch.
Posted by: Albert Smith | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 12:06 PM
Never crossed my mind to ask permission of people I was photographing out in public. I've run into the idea before, but it's not something I make any effort to do. On top of everything else, I want their natural behavior, not their performance.
I had a couple of conversations with people when I was going around shooting the Words Over Windows project, all of which ended well. Nobody came on aggressively, but several people kind of tentatively asked what I was doing. I worked into the answers that I lived in the neighborhood (I wasn't some suburban tourist). One older Native American man had been doing darkroom work as long ago as I had, we talked photography just a bit.
Posted by: David Dyer-Bennet | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 12:10 PM
"Some people will say no just because they live miserable little lives and they want to lay some of their intense inner misery on others, and now it's your turn."
Is this a serious statement?
[Of course not! --Mike]
Posted by: nextSibling | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 12:53 PM
I live in one of those smaller cities where most people can see me coming from a couple blocks away (other than a tourist area that sometimes is crowded). I make shots that reflect that distance, because it's kind of how the city make me feel anyway. Sometimes I manage to sneak a closer shot, and like it, but realize someone saw me so I feel a little guilty when I look at it...
Posted by: John Krumm | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 01:18 PM
Based on the recent topic of camera size and photographing in public, the general mature profile of the TOP followers, and the comments I think many folks would greatly enjoy one particular Magnum online "course" (video series). See Mark Power: Picturing Place. It's $99 but I think many will enjoy it.
Posted by: Kenneth Tanaka | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 01:48 PM
The definition of street photography has become too narrow. Anywhere where there is a public gathering is 'street.' Festivals, fairs, rodeos, conventions, cars shows, arts & crafts fairs, etc. are all good for 'street.' Street photography is not a place, it is an aesthetic.
Posted by: Omer | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 04:01 PM
The TLR trick is the most effective and least obstrusive. It takes some practice to do it effectively.
I use my V-Lux 4 which has that flip up screen that I can look down and shoot to my heart's content.
Posted by: Dan Khong | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 04:58 PM
Be careful taking personal pictures while on someone else's dime: unless your contract explicitly states otherwise, any pictures you take while they're paying you would be considered a "work for hire" and they will have the copyright to them, not you.
Posted by: Stephen S. | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 06:10 PM
Smile and say thank you in the local language if they notice you. Back off if they’re uncomfortable unless it’s a police officer or other official in a public setting, because they have no right telling you not to photograph (exception: police states).
That said, I had to prepare myself mentally for 45 minutes years ago before I could start shooting at a beach bar. The combination of half-drunk scantily-clad people was a bit much. I also used a large 1-series Canon with a big zoom, so I didn’t look like a creep and when I started shooting I was right there in the middle. Later that night, shooting in dance clubs, I made sure to have permission from the security guards.
Most people have no issues and when they do, you can work it out (exception: police states; there you tread carefully).
Posted by: John | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 06:47 PM
“ —>Take rejection. Some people will say no just because they live miserable little lives and they want to lay some of their intense inner misery on others, and now it's your turn. Be impervious. You have to hear "no" to get to "yes."
Some people just say no for very good reasons, unless you’re paying them-they owe you nothing. Saying they have miserable little lives says more about you than them.
[I was trying to be humorous, albeit wryly and dryly...guess not? --Mike]
Posted by: Robert Knight | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 07:35 PM
A photography teacher I had years ago happened to have the exact opposite approach to street photography to “shoot first and be fast”.
Whenever she saw someone interesting and photography-worthy she approached, asked politely if she could take their picture and when she got a “yes” she walked away without even taking the camera out of the bag. She did this with several people within a few minutes.
She got a green light, so from that moment on she knew she could take as many shots as she wanted and it was ok.
The first shot was usually someone looking straight at the camera, but people really quickly got used to see her hanging around, so she got lots of spontaneous, great looking pictures.
That same teacher once forced me to ditch my long lens (useful to shy people like me) and use an ultra wide lens to take casual street shots. Do as I say, don’t do as I do.
Posted by: Gaspar Heurtley | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 08:15 PM
Marry well. I was once out with my wife and noticed three older characterful careworn gentlemen. I mentioned to my wife what a great photo they would make. But also mentioned that I didn't want to intrude on them.
So she popped straight over to them, was charming, and then asked if her husband could take their photograph because they looked so interesting. And it was on.
My wife could sell a ketchup popsicle to a lady wearing white gloves on a summers day. Yes. I married well.
Posted by: Kye Wood | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 08:58 PM
One way to work your way into street photography and ease the issue of being uncomfortable invading the private space of others, is to find a spot that has strong compositional elements, park yourself there and wait for people to walk into/through that spot. Then click the shutter. By standing in one spot you pretty quickly become mostly "invisible" to those around you, and the people walking into the scene won't notice you until you have already made the photograph because you look like you are just shooting the scene in front of you. They are walking into your photograph, not the other way around. There are many classic examples of this, but the work of Fan Ho in 1950's-60's Hong Kong provides many wonderful examples.
here
and here
Posted by: Steve Rosenblum | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 09:48 PM
I've admired Elliott Erwitt's street photographs since I first saw them in the 1970s. His pictures of dogs and their owners are wonderful (there's at least one book. The picture of the British bulldog on its owner's lap on a stoop is one of my favorites).
I've found most dog owners are flattered and happy that you find their dog cute (even if it isn't) and want to take a picture. If you can, offer to give them a copy - carrying an Instax Mini instant film camera is a good idea.
This is an easy entry point for the faint of heart and courage to start out in street photography.
In well over a hundred encounters I've only ever had one negative response, from a dog owner who told me I couldn't take a picture of his dog without his permission. The owner looked a bit rough and his dog looked unhappy. I wasn't about to stop and argue with him. There's plenty of happy dog owners out there on the street.
Posted by: Lynn | Tuesday, 20 June 2023 at 12:12 AM
Go search for “first amendment audit” on youtube where videographers test police and property occupants by filming where it makes people uncomfortable but happens to be legal… photographers and subjects at their miserable worst.
[Yes, I agree. What I've seen of this behavior makes me cringe. It's the opposite of my own natural impulse. --Mike]
Posted by: Tom M | Tuesday, 20 June 2023 at 12:25 AM
For starters I suggest going to a parade, fiesta, San Juan - any outdoor event where there are lots of people and maybe activities etc. Firstly people are going to be concentrating on what is going on, not on you. Second the presence of photographers is likely to be expected. Take lots of pictures, practice, be confident, often people at events like to have their picture taken, especially if they're in a parade. Be careful about taking pictures of children or young people - always interact with the parents first and then ask permission if they seem responsive about what you're doing. If you're thinking of posting on line carry cards with a link to your website - Flikr, Instagram etc. Always be polite and say thank you, be as non-confrontational as possible especially if (rarely) someone is aggressive towards you. Oh, did I mention take lots of pictures, look for people interacting or doing something interesting or unusual, HAVE FUN!
Posted by: George Bishop | Tuesday, 20 June 2023 at 05:15 AM
"—>Of course, engaging with people isn't forbidden."
My feeling has always been that if you can't actually engage with people you won't really be taking any good people pictures vs. some other kind of picture that happens to have people in it. This is why I (mostly) gave up doing this.
"Candid" pictures taken from afar and/or using other vaguely sneaky tactics rarely seem all that interesting to me and in a lot of ways seem like a cop out. If you are not going to get in there with your subject and actually show some real interest what is even the point?
One thing I do find fun sometimes though is taking pictures of people taking pictures of themselves in front of famous things. This is usually easy. 🙂
Posted by: psu | Tuesday, 20 June 2023 at 07:35 AM
1. Never ask permission.
2. Shoot and keep moving.
3. If you're really nervous starting out, begin with a long lens (contrary to many street photographers, I sometimes use a 28-300mm lens, and get great shots that look intimate from across the street or down the block). Move to a shorter lens when comfortable.
Posted by: Gerry O'Brien | Tuesday, 20 June 2023 at 10:03 AM
"You never know when the good pictures are going to come." Ahhhh yes. That's a good one!!!!
Posted by: Rick Twigg | Tuesday, 20 June 2023 at 05:55 PM
A few tips I heard from teachers at the ICP in New York:
It can be helpful to have an album of small prints in your bag, to show people what kind of pictures you make. If you’re challenged, that can help get you cooperation to continue afterwards.
Most people cannot get away with taking pictures of kids in public anymore. If you’re a middle-aged male hoping to emulate Helen Levitt’s early work, you’re simply SOL.
Develop a thick skin — if you let others’ disapproval discourage you, you’ll give up on the most interesting situations for picture-taking.
Posted by: Ari | Tuesday, 20 June 2023 at 07:38 PM
The mood is festive and people have gathered:
I also have a very hard time photographing people on the street. One of the few times I feel comfortable with this type of photography is during the annual Tucson All Souls Procession. The Procession has a carnival type atmosphere where many people are in costume and there are photographers literally everywhere so it’s easy for me to blend in. But even in such a bustling environment I still prefer to keep my distance so I use my old EF 135mm f/2 which is a really great lens.
The purpose of the Procession is to honor and remember loved ones who have passed and even though many people are celebrating, it’s important to be present and aware of those in attendance who have suffered a recent loss and are grieving. These folks are typically not in costume and they do not want a camera in their face. When reacting to fast-changing, interesting compositions through the viewfinder its important to not miss subtle cues. The Procession is such an interesting event that I always make a point of putting the camera away for a time to just enjoy the day and generate some memories.
Posted by: Jim Arthur | Wednesday, 21 June 2023 at 12:08 PM