A good reason to prefer a camera of a certain size is how ordinary people respond to it. If you want to be surreptitious and blend in, a small, modest camera that doesn't look like much is best. If you want to look impressive and imposing, like you're official, or allowed to be where you are, like you know what you're doing and don't care who else knows it, a big, expensive, late model camera is best.
The reason I like small cameras is that I'm shy and people don't react well to me when I'm taking candid pictures in public. I assume something of my anxiousness transmits to their spidey-senses and puts them off. I've been with shooters who are the opposite. It's a gift that some photographers don't even know is a gift. I'm on the big side, and male, and I must almost radiate my sense of discomfort when I'm trying to sneak a stranger's picture. Notice that word "sneak"? Bad attitude!
Goes for noise, too. My quiet Leica M6 (1984) was better than my loud Nikon N8008 (1988). The Pentax LX (1980) was a near perfect camera, except for the loud metallic SNAP! of the shutter. That's not so much an issue now, with digital cameras that have electronic shutters. They're either dead silent or very close to it.
When point-and-shoots came along in the 1980s, I photographed with one once and was amazed that people simply ignored me. Same with toy cameras. It was freeing. With big, imposing cameras it's been the opposite—I've had some almost preternaturally weird experiences with big cameras drawing attention, sometimes in situations where they just shouldn't have.
Here are a few of those instances:
—>I was trying out a Fujifilm "Texas Leica" 6x9cm once and I wanted to make a few test shots, so I went to the balcony of my fourth floor loft and pointed it into the cityscape. A hundred feet away and two stories lower down, a construction worker immediately stopped what he was doing and stared right at me. What?
—>Working with a big Mamiya once, not even that close to a big road with not much traffic, the occupants of three cars passing only a few minutes apart honked and yelled at me just to hassle me. Really? Mind yer own business!
—>While driving once, at about 40 MPH or thereabouts, I held the camera at the bottom of the driver's side window and made a few blind snaps of some motorcycles a couple of lanes over. When I looked at the files, one of the riders was staring right at the camera. Dude, you need to keep your eye on the road even more than I do.
—>When the shift changed and they got off work, the bike messengers who worked days in D.C.—lots of them—used to congregate at DuPont Circle to laze around and socialize. I figured I'd do some shooting with whatever big medium-format camera I was writing about at the time. Wrong! As soon as I walked over, a rider, a female, got up from where she was laying on the ground and came striding over to me, spewing invective in a loud voice. She got right in my face, shouting the whole time. I backed down, of course, because I'm me. Apparently it was far from the first time she had done something similar—as I was retreating, one of the other messengers said to me, sympathetically, "We're all aggressive. We have to be. But she's the most aggressive of us all!"
Big being bad was even true when I had full cooperation from my subjects. When I taught at a girls' high school, I did a few dozen student portraits, and I noticed that a great big lens with a huge outer element intimidated some of the kids and made them feel uncomfortable, whereas a small lens with a modest outer element didn't. One girl said she felt "stared at" when I used the big lens. She looked at it with a subtly different expression.
That brings up the observer effect. "In physics, the observer effect is the disturbance of an observed system by the act of observation. This is often the result of utilizing instruments that, by necessity, alter the state of what they measure in some manner." The camera being the instrument and the reaction of the subject being the "disturbance of the observed system."
A story about Cartier-Bresson—I forget where this came from, now—was that he had a skillful way of carrying his camera covered with a handkerchief. He would set the controls by feel, and bring the camera to his eye and shoot so swiftly and smoothly that people often didn't notice it, quickly returning it to its hidden resting position. He would not have been served well by a larger, more imposing camera. Daido Moriyama of course famously uses little point-and-shoots. Helen Levitt had a right-angle lens attachment so she could photograph street scenes surreptitiously. In his subway photographs (a series that I admit never seemed like much to me), Walker Evans rigged up a way to hide his camera under his coat and trigger the shutter without moving. The famous Leica photograph of Leon Trotsky was taken by Robert Capa (on his very first assignment) with a tiny Barnack camera he smuggled into the lecture hall, against the rules, under his coat.
Generally it's sort of inherently traumatizing to me to go up to strangers and take their pictures without permission, and I think this is always in the back of my mind when I'm thinking about buying any particular camera. I've historically had a preference for cameras that don't look serious, that blend in, that don't call attention to themselves. Of course, my problem is probably as much my attitude as it is anything about the equipment. Some people radiate friendliness or confidence and can go right up to anyone. Others, more brazen, don't care if they make people uncomfortable. (I don't like those types as well.) But still.
Big is bold
The reason to have a big, expensive camera is when when you want the camera to be part of your bonafides. If you're doing pictures for hire for the public, such as family portraits for instance, it's embarrassing to arrive with a camera that's worse than the one your amateur client owns. A big, imposing camera says things about you—for one, that you're a serious photographer who's worth whatever you're being paid. And if it's more expensive than an ordinary amateur would buy, so much the better. It makes what you're doing—and, by extension, you—seem like you know your stuff and are well equipped for it. It might even impart confidence.
The camera I have now breaks this small/big paradigm. It's the smallest FF camera extant, but not the way I have it configured. Set up the way I have it set up, it has the gestalt of an old medium-format film camera. Although perfectly silent (it only has electronic shutter), it's not small. Oddly, though, I find people don't pay much attention to it. I suspect it's so oddly shaped that they don't quite know what it is. Plus, it's got such a giant viewfinder that I can quickly invite strangers to look at one of my pictures! They're impressed. Another advantage is that I'm older now, and old people are more readily assumed to be harmless.
We're still in a honeymoon period with smartphones, because a lot of people still don't take them seriously as cameras, a legacy from the time not long ago when...well, when they weren't very good cameras. That will probably change, eventually. I read an account once of the era around 1880 or 1890. The photographer had a hand-held camera, and was delighted to discover that people ignored it, because people at that time were conditioned to think of cameras as things that were always used on tripods. Eventually they got used to the fact that cameras are handheld.
After a lot of time passed the opposite might have become true: my mentor Steve Szabo was out photographing with his view camera on a tripod in broad daylight once. When he came out from under the dark cloth, he found a man standing behind him waiting patiently for him to appear. Steve said, "I bet you want to know what I'm doing," and the man said, "I already know. You were surveying, that's what you were doing."
By the way, the Texas Leica story reminds me of another tip: if you want to make yourself invisible in a public place with a lot of people around, just pick a spot and stand there for a while. Hold your camera about chest level. People will check you out at first, but after a few minutes they'll see nothing's happening and they'll start to ignore you. Even passersby seem inclined to ignore you if other people in the area aren't checking you out. Then you can raise the camera and take a picture from time to time and most people won't seem to notice. Try it.
Albert Smith reminded me of all this with something he said two days ago, so, thanks, Albert.
Mike
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Lynn: "This resonates with my experience. I found street photography easier with digital point-and-shoots like the Nikon 1 and Panasonic LX-3 (and before that the Fuji F10); and the wonderful Olympus XA, XA4 and Rollei 35S with film, zone focused. The almost-silent and small Barnack Leicas (mine's a IIIc) is almost as good, maybe because it doesn't look like most people's expectation of what a camera looks like.
"Using a Canon 5D and 24–105mm was an entirely difference experience, and very difficult to manage discreetly with that large front element. I found the least intrusive solution was to hold the camera somewhere between waist and chest height and frame by guesswork—not that difficult with a bit of practice. But it still drew attention (and often a wary look), which changes the photograph.
"I've tried street photography with a TLR (Yashica Mat 124G) and classic folders (Bessa II 6x9 and Voiglander Perkeo II 6x6) and found these draw curious looks but none of the wariness that accompanies the 5D. Sometimes people stop to ask about the old cameras, and are surprised to learn you can still buy film. I've had some nice conversations when using these vintage cameras.
"You've mentioned age but don't forget gender: in my observation women of any age taking pictures of people in public places are universally deemed harmless and quickly ignored. I've seen a woman on a crowded beach walking up close to take pictures of other people's children with a DSLR and a large zoom lens and no-one bats an eyelid. Try that if you're male and be prepared for an entirely different reaction.
"Come to think of it I'm surprised there aren't more well known women street photographers. How many more Vivian Maiers are out there waiting to be discovered?"
Derek: "I've noticed that when I have some of my Fuji bodies (X100 especially, X-Pro 2 even with the 56mm ƒ/1.2 mounted on) it feels like people around me tend to express hints they're open to me photographing them."
Bob G.: "I understand the ability to photograph easily with confidence can be difficult. As an art director/designer most of my life, I’ve had to hire and organize photo shoots of various types. These were tightly controlled and scheduled events, as the meter was running for not only the photographer(s), but their assistants, makeup and grip personnel, etc. Everything had to fall into place and wrap with the conceived idea hopefully achieved. I would avoid manually handling anything with the cameras, only directing what I needed.
"In general, I was also respectfully intimidated when shooting others by myself, but later remedied this by imagining that the scenes with people were photo shoots and all hired to do their part for me. That built confidence, sometimes even enabling me to 'direct' people walking by. The trick is to compliment them. Another technique is to shoot reflections of them in windows. 'Standing with the camera' is also good—anything to lessen the perceived tension that leads to 'fight or flight.' The mindset should not be 'taking their picture,' but you’re 'making your photograph.' This obviously pertains to permissibly legal situations.
"As to camera size, yes, with a smaller camera, one is more of a 'tourist' amateur. But in general, people are more negatively sensitive now, at least with phone cameras, with all the photos being able to be broadcast on the web easily."
Ernest Zarate: "As you brought up a couple good tips for photographing strangers (I have long used both a low-key, unobtrusive approach, and staying in one place long enough to blend into the background), I’ll toss in another one I have found valuable.
"When I was photographing people out and about, when I lowered my camera, I never looked at the people I’d just photographed. Rather, I looked past them, as if I was photographing something beyond them. I would even have a slightly annoyed look on my face, as if they were in the way of what I was photographing. I might even move around slightly, take a step to the right and/or left, looking past the people, as if I was trying to find the 'just right' spot. This would allow me to grab a couple more shots without incurring any wrath. I could, and often did, add some other elements of play acting into it as well.
"I knew I had done a good job of selling my act if the people I’d photographed turned around to look behind them to see what I was looking at. That happened nearly every time. It wasn’t necessary to convince them; I just had to create enough doubt that they were not sure what was going on."
David Raboin: "A few thoughts on people noticing cameras from a shy street photographer.
"When I shoot with my Ricoh GR III, people mostly don't notice me, but if they do, they don't take me seriously, they pity me for shooting with what they think is an ancient point-and-shoot. With my Ricoh, I could shoot a person in the middle of Fifth Avenue and no one would care.
"I also do street photography with my Canon R6 and large zooms. I've found that the general public hasn't figured out mirrorless cameras yet. Most people think you need to look through the viewfinder to take a picture. I use the LCD and back button focus set to face detect. As long as the camera isn't up in my face, people don't realize that I'm snapping pictures.
"One more thought on street photography: some cities are easier for street photos than others. I travel the US endlessly, and I've found that street photography is easiest in Manhattan NYC. The streets there are so busy thay nobody has time to care about a guy with a camera. The same goes for busy tourist areas like Santa Monica Pier or Pike Market. A photographer can hide in a crowd, especially if the crowd is mostly confused tourists. The most difficult places for street photography are quieter medium sized cities. Put me in a place like Kansas City or Fort Worth and I have a hard time taking street photos with a lens shorter than 85mm."
Mike replies: One of my major shooting revelations was when I shot for six or eight months on the streets of DC with an Exakta 66, a medium-format camera with a waist-level finder. As you say about mirrorless, I suspect people mostly assumed that I was "in between" shots and adjusting the camera when I had the camera down low and was looking down into it. It didn't trigger that "I'm being looked at" feeling for them; they ignored it. I've always thought there should be a digital camera with a true waist-level finder, one that could have a proper light-blocking hood. Flip-up screens work pretty well as a substitute, and the image not being reversed is a big bonus.
Mark Sampson: "The early 'street' photographers, Kertesz, Cartier-Bresson, et al., had a great advantage. In their world, their subjects were not used to candid photographs being made 'off the cuff.' Photographs were rare, formal events like weddings and family portraits. Even Brownie snapshots were carefully composed and a bit of an event. So people didn't consider that photographs would, or could,be taken candidly, or in low light, or casually; thus freeing up the photographers to capture the 'decisive moment.' This advantage has been steadily evaporating since more or less World War II, and is now almost completely gone. Thus making the work of 'street' photographers today that much more difficult."
Mike replies: Not only that, but Helen Levitt has a lot to say (where, I can't recall) about the difference a few decades made in life on the street. I wish I knew the reference so I could share it; she talked about how life used to take place on the streets in the '30s and '40s, and there was always lots going on, whereas by the '60s and '70s the streets were comparatively dead and all the people had gone elsewhere. I'm paraphrasing, obviously.
Charlie Dunton: "Lots of stuff I agree with. I too am an introvert, though not shy. I just like to think things through before speaking. I've always used a large camera since going digital, always with a battery grip and usually a 24–105mm L lens. I'm currently shooting that way with a Canon R5.
"As you mentioned, I like large, expensive cameras because they help with the 'I'm a pro and paid to be here' attitude. I'm never pushy, but don't shy away or try to hide what I'm doing. I find honesty helps. I did notice something interesting on a recent trip to Disney World. We usually see at least one parade in Magic Kingdom, and I usually shoot it with my iPhone, typically just pictures for me. This last time I used the big R5. I found that anything bigger than a cell phone was instantly recognized by the people on the floats. So I got a nice smile and a wave from Anna and Elsa, also from Cinderella and Prince Charming, a nice smile from Tiana, but Tinker Belle turned and looked directly at me with a pout that would make a three-year-old proud. You have to be careful photographing anyone holding a wand!
"But the ones to watch out for are those walking behind. I had one woman walk briskly toward me with a big pucker on her lips. She approached so quickly that the action-following autofocus on the R5, as good as it is, couldn't keep up. I ended up with six badly unfocused images. The last one may have actually been inside the minimum focus distance for the lens. On the other hand, I recently spent 15 minutes talking to a beautiful woman at a Blackbeard Pirate Festival. Just as we were finishing our conversation, I asked her if I could take her picture, and she said certainly. I later found out she was a professional model which explains the strikingly gorgeous pose she gave me.
"Be honest, be polite, and show an interest in people, and it will go a long way."
Bill Tyler: "One of my favorite photos made on the street was the result of having a 4x5 Crown Graphic set up on a tripod. A little girl, accompanied by her parents, was fascinated, and asked if I would take their picture. It's posed, not candid, but the people and their happiness radiate from the image. I won't share it because I have no idea who they are, and don't want to invade their privacy even now, decades later. But it was having the big, complicated-looking camera that was the stimulus for the image."
Mike replies: I don't get not showing it, but okay.
John Camp: "This is a comment about your (Mike's) comment about Helen Levitt and the changes over a few decades. The change didn't actually happen in a few decades, it happened in a few years—the arrival of television. I'm old enough to remember it. After World War II, on my street in a veterans neighborhood—my father had been in the Army in Europe—there was always a lot going on. Neighborhood parties, weekly new movie premieres, many, many people belonged to fraternal organizations (Elks, Moose, Masons, Eagles, Lions, VFW, American Legion, Knights of Columbus, Odd Fellows and Rebeccas, etc.) There were all kinds of in-person clubs, too, for model airplanes, stamp collectors, photography, ballroom dancing and so on. Church-going was big. Sometime in the early fifties, TV arrived in mass numbers, and the street life literally disappeared overnight. No more neighborhood parties. No more clubs. I lived through that transition and it was stark. And, in my opinion, a shame. We exchanged a social world for bullshit."
I do seem to have some of the skill of making my big camera not get noticed. I carried it around a lot in highschool, taking pictures in class and such, even, without other students or the teachers objecting. Served the yearbook very well, to be sure.
Earlier this month, a somewhat camera-shy friend was looking at a gallery I posted and said they hadn't noticed me taking 2 of the pictures of them, so I seem to still have some of it.
Neither case was at the "blatancy" level of, say, a Mamiya RB67, though, either. (Highschool was a Miranda Sensorex, sometimes with a 200mm f/3.5 telephoto, though, not small back then.)
Posted by: David Dyer-Bennet | Saturday, 17 June 2023 at 10:28 PM
Some photographers can make most any camera work a given situation- they’re that confident (and versatile).
As an introvert, I’m extremely shy, so when I see a situation, I ask myself- are you a photographer, or not?
Posted by: Stan B. | Saturday, 17 June 2023 at 10:50 PM
I'll have to try the stand in one place thing with my GW690 for a while. My experience so far is that only other photographers pay attention to me (or rather, the camera) when I'm carrying it around.
Posted by: Keith | Saturday, 17 June 2023 at 10:54 PM
I think a number of us could tell “big camera” stories”. One that comes to mind for me is walking around county fairgrounds up in Maine with a Nikon D2h. Several 4H kids approached me wanting to know if I could photograph them for the local paper.
Now older and less bold I tend to stay away from humans when walking with a camera. Few of them interest me anyway!
Posted by: Mike Ferron | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 08:28 AM
For reasons given by Mike, I have always shot with small cameras; sundry Olympus OMs and Leicas in the old days and now, in the digital age, sundry Sony A7s.
But what good is a small camera when the lens is big? My 90mm Leica Summicron APO ASPH had to go because it was so obtrusive. The Leica Elmarit-M 90mm f/2.8 served me much better. (And that wonderful retractable sunshade!).
When Sony came out with their small size f/2.5 40 and 50mm G lenses, both excellent fully open, the 40mm Batis (very nice rendering) had to go. As had the old Sony 55mm.
I love my 85 mm f/1.8 Batis, but it will be replaced the day Sony brings out a small 85 or 90mm f/2.5 or 2.8 or even 4.0 lens.
Posted by: Christer Almqvist | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 08:35 AM
I spent three weeks one year walking around Italy with a Hasselblad camera and a 100mm lens. Shot hundreds and hundreds of frames of people. All people. Out in the streets, in parks, in cafes and museums. Nice, tight framing. Not a single person complained or seemed unsettled by my camera or my activity. I think people carry their paranoia with them and all the "tricks" for sneaking shots just reinforce their skewed beliefs that they are seen as suspect. As Buckeroo Banzai said, "Wherever you go, there you are." You bring the hesitancy with you and then you transmit the feeling that you "might" be doing something "wrong" to the strangers around you. I think the resistance many feel has nothing to do with camera size or visual appearance but everything to do with the vibe you put out there. Fix the vibe and you can photograph just about anywhere without disturbing the social landscape. Tricks unnecessary. Good attitude critical. A quick smile, and a comfortable understanding of what your goals are. Is it to "steal" and image or to make a new friend and collaborate on a nice photograph? Sometimes I walk with other photographers. The happier they are the more open the people around them are to being photographed. The ones who are furtive are never disappointed when their own paranoia is confirmed for them.
[Certainly confidence, attitude, and aptitude matter, a lot, as I expressed in several ways in this post. But the literature is full of accounts right from the very beginning of the various difficulties and adventures that photographers have had out shooting. There are videos(!) of Bruce Gilden and Garry Winogrand getting hassled. Even Elliott Erwitt, one of the greatest of candid life-on-the-fly photographers, has all sorts of tricks and subterfuges he uses, which he talks about in his writings and interviews. At beaches, he used to pose one of his children in front of him so he could shoot past them with a 200mm lens, enabling him to more freely shoot pictures of scantily-clad beachgoers. Robert Frank made several famous pictures of people reacting to him with anger or hostility. On and on the list goes. --Mike]
Posted by: Kirk | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 09:18 AM
My current camera for candid photography is the Fujifilm X-E4 with the 27mm f2.8 pancake lens. It looks totally unprofessional.
When I'm out shooting I dress like a tourist. I'm ignored.
And like you mentioned I stand in one place and keep looking at my watch like I'm waiting for someone.
My last piece of stealth is being seventy-eight yers old. I mean who is going to threaten an old guy with a cheap looking camera dressed like a tourist and is standing in one place like he is waiting for someone.
Posted by: John Krill | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 10:09 AM
Could it be it's frequently the person, and not the product?
I'm a 5'2" male, average looks, average body.
I lived in Asia for nearly 3 decades, in several countries, and traveled to many others. I always have a camera. For the first 20 years I shot film, hundreds of rolls over that time, and rarely encountered negativity. I used a Contax camera and Zeiss lenses... not real small. I also shot a lot of medium format, more hundreds of rolls, usually with folders, Zeiss Ikontas and an Agfa Super Isolette... highly noticeable, certainly not compact point & shoot!
I only recall a few times when people waved their hands at me demanding I put down my camera.
My camera bags are Domke, again not noticeable, and my dress is always bland, certainly never anything like a Hawai'ian shirt.
I was in India doing a workshop with a photojournalist, and one of the women complained about how people were always staring at her... a 6' Swedish blonde, extremely attractive, with excessive mammalian protuberances and tank tops. Who wouldn't at least take a glance! She had a hard time taking candid shots.
A friend, a guy, average looking, a skinny 6'4", remarked when we were out & about in China that people were always looking at him while they were ignoring me. And another friend who looks like an offensive lineman understood it as simply the 'intimidation factor' in noting that due to my size I was never intimidating, and therfor not intrusive.
Due to my shortness it's easy for me to be inconspicuous, and no one ever looks at me when I have something tiny in my hand, like my Ricoh GR.
One other thing I have realized is that Americans are more sensitive to having their photos taken than people in most other countries.
Posted by: Ronald M | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 12:12 PM
Two simple rules for me. (1) Always having my wife somewhere in the frame and keeping up a conversation with her while taking the picture. (2) Nobody else's children even in the vicinity, much less in the frame.
Posted by: Doug Anderson | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 12:53 PM
1. Women have it easier than men when taking pictures of strangers I think, though I have to be honest, I haven't asked them - not sure how they'd know in any case.
2. Some days I have confidence to photograph strangers, others not.
3. Getting older helps with being invisible; it doesn't help with carrying a ton of heavy gear around nor with the long days necessary to optimise chances.
Posted by: Patrick Dodds | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 12:54 PM
I found the Fuji medium size cameras very helpful when asking people if I could take a photo of them for my photo essays.

Posted by: Herman Krieger | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 01:29 PM
Yes, I think most people still consider smartphones to be personal note-taking devices and they fly under the radar. It's not exactly a misconception: despite the astonishing capabilities of today's smartphone, I believe most "serious" photographers--when they're being "serious"--prefer a dedicated camera.
One "disguise" that I think worked for me when I lived in a big "destination" city was to dress like a tourist. Not too difficult, as there's considerable overlap between sensible traveling attire/gear and sensible street shooting attire/gear. The disguise is in the attitude--in short (and paradoxically (and also, often in shorts)), making no effort at all to be discrete or to "blend in".
Generally, the gawking tourist is seen as anything from welcome guest to transient annoyance to be tolerated, but rarely anything threatening. And thanks to that overlap in gear functionality, there's no reason to engage in any subterfuge when interacting with people.
(Thinking about this now, I wonder how many of the tourists I saw were other local photographers doing the same?)
One could argue, though, that in a sense we become tourists the instant we pick up a camera, even at home. Or that, for certain kinds of photography at least, that's probably the right mentality.
Posted by: robert e | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 02:27 PM
I’ve taken photos with a Leica Monochrom and a black 35 Summilux or before that an M4-2 black and black 50 Summicron at the annual scientific meeting of my professional society and at its social functions for nearly 30 years. It’s amazing how many colleagues are astonished to see themselves in these pictures, telling me they have no recollection of me taking the shot.
Posted by: Richard G | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 02:32 PM
I'm a bit surprised the Ricoh GR series of camera hasn't had a mention here. It's basically built for discreet photography on the street (quite good for landscapes too though). You can even disable the "on" light on top so it draws less attention, plus there's snap focus. In my experience, looking in a different direction than where you're shooting makes people think you're not actually taking a picture at that moment; pretty easy with a wide lens.
Posted by: Bill Allen | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 03:44 PM
I too am a bit shy when it comes to street photography. I am male and would not likely be welcomed at a children's playground. I photographed my 3 year old granddaughter recently at a playground and had to be careful not to point my camera at any of the other children. My wife has still not forgiven me for not taking people photos when we were in Africa years ago. As a white person, again, male, and clearly wealthy compared to my potential subjects, I felt it was not appropriate to document their poverty for my own "artistic" purposes. The relatively large Nikon F2 with decent size lenses did not help. I prefer subjects that are either willing, like my family, or that don't care like the rocks and trees I most often photograph.
Posted by: Eric Brody | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 04:02 PM
Your statement from Helen Levitt also appears in this article…
https://erickimphotography.com/blog/2014/06/06/7-lessons-helen-levitt-has-taught-me-about-street-photography/
Kim provides various sources for his quotations at the end of the article.
Posted by: Jeff | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 04:50 PM
Why do some so-called photographer feel the need to photograph people who don't want their pictures taken?I have never understood this, all you are doing is angering me unnecessarily.
Posted by: c.d.embrey | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 06:06 PM
These days I work primarily with 4x5 and 6x6 film cameras, so my cameras are large and on top of a tripod when I shoot. Last week I was on Amelia Island camping. My campsite was adjacent to the walking pier. I got up early before other campers became active, placed my Linhof variable viewfinder in my pocket, and went for a stroll looking for a few landscape shots. Once I found them, I quickly returned to my van, placed my backpack with my 4x5 kit on my back, and grabbed my tripod. It took about 15 minutes to take four exposures in two locations. Once I got close to the end of the pier, a few people were waiting to greet me and told me where deer could be found on the beach. I thanked them graciously and told them I would need to grab a different camera for the deer. They were smiling and friendly, but I, too, am shy with people I do not know, and I continued walking to my van.
I wonder if when people are out shooting, do they know what they want to shoot and do it quickly? Or do they spend too much time looking through their cameras which may cause people close by to be on guard? I was probably one of the quickest shooters in the business. Get in and get out! If you do not know what you want to shoot and people are in the vicinity, it might be best to take a stroll to see what might catch your eye and come back later to take the shot.
I do not use a dark cloth. Instead, I use a focusing bellows. Having my head under the blanket in the landscape would be too scary. It is the two-legged critters that scare me the most. I do not think I have ever been called a surveyor, but it is understandable, especially if a wooden tripod is being used.
While in a recent HOA meeting, the board members were planning for the upcoming Fourth of July Parade. The female HOA president asked me if I would be in town for the parade, and I said I would be. She asked if I would take a few snapshots of the parade and kiddie activities for the newsletter. Before I could answer, the male HOA vice president blurted, "No, do not do that. We do not want our children's pictures taken." I commented, "It must be tough to raise kids these days."
As far as what was said about the female messenger biker: "... one of the other messengers said to me, sympathetically, "We're all aggressive. We have to be. But she's the most aggressive of us all!" She would have had to be, especially 20+ years ago. A woman working in a predominately male profession has to work harder than the best male in the crowd to get and keep the job. That's why some of the fellas call us aggressive, and some may be, but most are just trying to do their best and are more on alert than some of their male coworkers. No matter who says otherwise, men and women are not made of the same stuff (females are XX, and males are XY). Women want the opportunity to work in their chosen profession and to be paid equally. That's all it is.
Posted by: darlene | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 06:27 PM
Have a ready smile. Be grateful. And have a website that they could google immediately
Oh? Mike? The Online Photographer? Cool!
Posted by: Kye Wood | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 06:52 PM
My favorite was always a Vigilant 616. Great format and fair enough camera once you became familiar with it in the OCOL way. Folks would look it and smile or laugh.
Posted by: MarkMc | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 09:27 PM
LOL. When I don't look through the viewfinder, I can never keep the camera level.
I have had both successes and failures with all of the techniques above. When I am out on the street with my camera, the thing that intrigues me most is that a particular group of people on a particular street and time will only come together once. Collectively, they are like a snowflake - unique in their juxtaposition, their ironies, their contrasts, their complements.
I once put a Pentax 67 on a tripod* at 86th & Lex, northeast corner facing east and made my exposures of pedestrians with a cable release. No one on the street paid me the slightest attention. It was glorious. Nice big 45mm lens -- a wide view on that camera.
I now live in a state that has fewer people in it than my old neighborhood. I really miss that wonderful, polyglot mix, that heterogeneous living proof that life with difference does not have to be red in tooth and claw, but can just be a collection of strangers, intent on their business, ignoring the guy with the overgrown Pentax. Big camera, small camera. It can all work, if you are bold and lucky.
* Turns out to use a tripod on the street in NYC you technically need a permit from the Mayor's Office of Film and Television. This is observed most often in the breach, I think, NYC being NYC. But it is nice to know the rules, particularly if you take it into your head to flout them.
Posted by: Benjamin Marks | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 09:50 PM
in the 70s to 90s when I was traveling all over the world on business, I bought a Minox 35. It was so small, flat black and unobtrusive plus virtually silent (leaf shutter), I think few people thought of it as a camera. I also liked it because it was auto and could be given to anyone to take photos of me and others.
But my favorite story with it was during several trips to Japan in the late 70s. On one trip I brought one of my engineers with me, a giant guy from Barbados whose hobby was weightlifting. Everywhere we went in places like Tokyo, he created a sensation - probably the only 6.5+ foot tall (~2 m) black guy in the city. Me, I could just stand back and shoot all I wanted; nobody noticed me!
Second comment - I think everything changed after we got all paranoid about terrorists after 9/11.
Posted by: JH | Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 10:30 PM
I think attitudes are changing about photos taken with phones. They may not get attention like a "big" camera, but they are often used because the photos can be instantly shared with the whole world. Now, that's a real invasion of privacy.
Posted by: Luke | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 08:43 AM
It has very little to do with the camera. Practice until it’s instinctive (OCOLOY?), be quick, smile if you are noticed.
I used to use a Pentax 67 for street stuff. Nobody cared.
I now use one camera on my chest with a 35/1.8 and one on my shoulder with a 135mm. Not common now. Nobody notices or cares.
I like people, and I smile….
Posted by: Hugh | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 04:29 PM
Buy a blue jacket, have SECURITY embroidered on the back. Photograph anyone you want and if questioned gruffly say ‘Move on Now’ Oh, be sure to use a big pro spec camera
Posted by: Terry Letton | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 07:31 PM
Maybe too late for this - I wrote it on the plane home from photographing the US Open and there was no wifi!: I get the sense that my opinion on this is a minority one, but I don't agree! I think carrying and operating a different camera may make YOU feel different. It may make YOU feel less obtrusive and more invisible. And the fact that YOU feel that way gives off a certain disarming effect to those around you.
But I believe the camera doesn't really matter nearly as much as the general attitude and vibe that the photographer gives off. If you feel like you are "sneaking" pictures, you probably are giving off that vibe and I think people can read that - they can sense it.
When I'm photographing on the street, I don't feel like I'm stealing anything. I'm just trying to find nice images. If someone asks, I talk to them about it - show them.
And certainly there are methods and tricks that help you blend in and disappear in a scene. Like Mike mentioned, settling in to the same spot for a while is disarming. I find that photographing without looking directly through the viewfinder is also disarming - sort of in the waist level finder style.
But bottom line, I think that different cameras make you feel different and whatever works for you - works.
Posted by: JOHN B GILLOOLY | Monday, 19 June 2023 at 11:43 PM
Even though I’m late to the party, I have to agree that attitude is everything. I used to do street photography with a Hasselblad and later with a Bronica 6x7. There is no way to sneak around when you need 2 minutes to make sure the focus is spot on. And another 2 to compose. I found people to be very patient with me once they agreed to be photographed.
Posted by: Ramón Acosta | Wednesday, 21 June 2023 at 05:21 AM
John Camp. Could not agree more. Now the internet, devices and social media has taken the BS to the stratosphere.
Posted by: Paul | Saturday, 24 June 2023 at 04:37 PM