Jack clued me in about how to set up for the flyover. It happens too quickly to react to—you've got to be waiting for it.
As I mentioned briefly already, my friend Jack invited me to drive to Green Bay with him yesterday to take in a Packer game. Even though I've lived in Wisconsin for not too far short of half my life (from age 7 to 18 and 43 to 54), I'd never been to one before.
My first view of the fabled venue
It must be some version that "too local" phenomenon: I also went to photography school almost literally next door to the White House and never went on a tour. You'd think it would be easy, but there is always a line, and when you live there it also always seems like it would be just as easy to go some other time.
Coming into Lambeau for the first time is a memorable, wondrous experience.
The equivalent of the White House line is the difficulty of getting tickets to Lambeau, which will apparently be sold out as long as this region of the world remains populated.
The One-Eyed Frozen Man. Photo by Jack MacDonough.
To begin with the overwhelmingly obvious photographic lesson: some things just cannot be photographed. The immediacy of the experience, the totality of the sensations, and, especially, the qualities of the place itself just can't be reduced meaningfully to little rectangles of colors. Edvard Munch said that photography can never record heaven*.
Lambeau is surprisingly small and intimate.
And unphotographable—you gotta go!
And you can't photograph The Wave. (Jack said that.)
A 300% unsharpened detail from the picture above, to show how badly body-integral image stabilization degrades the image. I mean, I can't even read the logo on his sleeve, or read the time on his watch.
I took only a 4 GB card and didn't quite fill it up (and the gigabytes go by fast with the 24MP Sony on RAW+JPEG). But this morning, I'm impressed by the feeling that my pictures, taken to provide mementos more than anything, might even detract from my memory of the experience. The big things just aren't there in the pictures; the pictures of the little things are the only ones that work.
If you get to take in only one game at Lambeau, this one was the perfect one. Great company, great seats, an ideal day—clear and cool, with that bright slanting northern sunlight—and a game with almost no penalties and at least four really cool plays. And the Packers plastered the opposition**.
Nobody enjoys a blowout except the home team, as the old saying goes.
The couple in front of us were mixed—she's a Broncos fan, he's a Packers fan. They live between Denver and Green Bay, in Iowa.
The final score was 49-23. If there is any doubt in any football fans' minds that Aaron Rodgers is quickly ascending to a place in the Packer firmament, put those doubts to rest. Up till now, a certain half played long ago by John Elway of yesterday's visiting team was the most transcendent performance by a quarterback I'd seen, but Rodgers came close to that standard for a whole game. He was a one-man Bronco-buster, throwing for 400 yards and four touchdowns and rushing for two more, the first time that particular trick has ever been pulled off in the whole history of the National Football League. Wonderful to witness.
The real sports guys cover the actual sport. If you're in the stands, best to cover the stands.
A few observations: The players aren't big. They're tiny. And they don't make any noise like they do on TV—no grunts or audibles or the smacking of shoulder pads against shoulder pads. The crowd and the nearly incomprehensible announcers make all the noise.
And you've got to pay attention. I was astounded by how much harder it is to watch a game in person than it is on TV. TV does all the work for you, and it encourages really bad habits by comparison to reality: when I watch a football game on TV, I can even listen from another room and return to the set for the replay whenever I hear the crowd roar. I hope you won't think I'm completely barmy when I mention this, but at one point I caught myself staring very absent-mindedly but very intently at the field after a particularly intricate play, and I realized to my amusement that my brain in its infinite rut was waiting for reality to replay itself. Made me laugh.
Reminds me of something that happened a long time ago. A gallerist named David Adamson had donated six first-generation Macintosh computers to the Corcoran School of Art in 1984 to teach a computer graphics class, which I took. I spent the class using MacWrite rather than MacDraw. I'd gotten used to the then-new-to-me mouse and cursor, when one day, at home, writing a letter in longhand, I found myself staring (again very absent-mindedly) at the paper: I was sitting there holding the pencil touching the paper between two words I'd already written. Why? I was waiting for the cursor to appear so I could insert an adjective. D'oh!***
By the way, the Green Bay fans are really knowledgable. I thought I knew how to follow a football game, but the crowd is really right on top of what's happening. The four people to our left had paid two grand for their seats—and they left before the game was over! The friendly couple I was sitting next to were Steve and his pretty wife Heather; he's a plastics manufacturer from Monroe who sold the company he started but still works there. He told me he's played golf three times with Aaron Rodgers. In his youth Steve tried three times to make it through Q School****. I have big respect for people who take a shot at their dreams like that; not always easy.
While we were talking, I completely missed a Broncos touchdown.
Jack. The guy in the plaid shirt is Fred, a retired paper machinery contractor who was born down the road in Oshkosh.
Jack, who was a TOP reader long before we met in person, is a personable, smart guy with a sense of humor. He's also the ideal guide for a trip to Lambeau—we deconstructed Leica on the drive, amongst many other topics photographic, and he's very savvy about how to negotiate the ballpark—knows just where to park to make a clean getaway, and all that. Thanks again, Jack.
Anyway, I'll try to resist going on forever about this. I had a great time. The overarching lesson: one experience of any class of desirable thing is infinitely better than none.
Me photographing the flyover, by Jack.
If you ever get a chance to see a game at the famous Frozen Tundra, don't pass it up.
Mike
*Actually he said photography can never depict heaven or hell, but I'd argue with the hell part.
**But then, the Detroit Lions are also 4-0, which I believe is a Sign of the Apocalypse.
***I'd never be a writer if it weren't for computers. Just thought I'd mention that.
****Qualifying School for the PGA Tour, memorably chronicled in John Feinstein's book Tales from Q School: Inside Golf's Fifth Major.
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Featured Comment by Jon Porter: "Thanks for a unique perspective on the game. I watched yesterday's blow-out in the Appleton Best Western. I think the Broncos stayed at the posher Paper Valley Hotel downtown, as earlier in the day there were fancy buses, flashing police cars and what looked like football fans crowded outside the entrance. Around halftime I went to dinner and the streets of Appleton were as close to deserted as I've ever seen them, as was the local Applebee's. Game day attire for women in town seemed to be #12 Packer jerseys. I guess it goes without saying that Aaron Rodgers is Wisconsin's Most Eligible Bachelor!"
Featured Comment by John: "I can relate to your instant replay and mouse experiences—in the last year or so I've taken to reading books almost exclusively on my iPad—I've probably consumed close to 40 novels. Twice recently I found myself reading a traditional paper book or magazine and, without thinking, and swiped my finger across the page (iPad users are familiar with the motion) expecting it to turn crisply and allow me to continue reading. To my credit, I don't think I gave it a second swipe on either occasion, but it did take me a just a moment to realize it wasn't going to respond and why....
Featured Comment by Ted: "Last year, at age 52, I finally made it to my first ever Red Sox game at Boston's Fenway Park. I discovered the exact same things you did—taking photos of the game was fun, but it detracted from the experience of watching the game much more than I thought it would. But what a great time I had! Too bad the Sox fell apart this year. By the way, your photos of the Packers game are much better than mine."
Mike replies: Thanks Ted! I was feeling mighty rusty. I have enjoyed the advantage of several periods of time in which I had nothing to do in my life but shoot, and that kind of concentration has its rewards. It does come back. I was sort of "half" in working mode, because I knew I'd need some shots to post here. However I thought Jack's shots of the day were better than my batch, all things considered, so I know the feeling.
Featured Comment by Ken Rahaim: "It's an interesting point you make about the act of photography detracting from the experience. I've experienced this feeling enough times now that I specifically and consciously make the decision not to shoot, but rather to just absorb the experience and let it wash over me. When my 'eye is on' (as my mentor used to say) the world gets reduced to choices of 3:2 aspect ratio compositions to the exclusion of pretty much everything else; most notably, it seems for me, sound.
"My wife and friend were very surprised when I didn't bring my SLR with me to Monza to watch Sebastien Vettel win his very first Formula 1 race driving for Red Bull junior team Toro Rossa. Instead, I can still recall the visceral scream of the F1 rockets approaching Parabolica; the damp, wet conditions which Vettel drove in so masterfully; and the history which permeates a place like Monza. Yeah, sure, I would've noticed those things even if I had been shooting. But I didn't want to just 'notice' them. I really wanted to absorb them and me, I just can't do that if I'm seriously trying to shoot."
Mike replies: The better you are, the harder it is to divide your concentration and not "work at peak" so to speak. To really "work" a football stadium, with your "eye on" as you put it, I imagine a photographer would probably have to go to three games (if not ten) and have the run of the place, and of course you wouldn't be very aware of any of the actual games. The opposite of working at peak with your eye on is what I've long called "being a tourist." I was just a tourist at this one. As I am in almost every instance when I do any appreciable amount of shooting. And a lot of shooters don't have the patience to work when they can only have half their cylinders firing. It makes sense to me that you'd make the choice to concentrate on experiencing the race at Monza rather than just be a tourist with your camera.
We have a new (for us) oldies TV station called MeTV. They have a promo for Taxi where Latka (the late Andy Kaufman) says that they don't have instant replay in his country - "They just make the players do it over again"
Posted by: KeithB | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 11:36 AM
Oh Mike... I'm from the south of México but I just love American Football. I visited Yankee Stadium last year (not anymore the House that Ruth Build) and I've been to the Azteca Stadium (the only one that has hosted two World Cup Finals), but to be at the Frozen Tundra... oh boy. The only thing close to it must be Old Trafford (aka The Theatre of Dreams) in Manchester. I'm full of envy.
Posted by: Francisco Cubas | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 12:03 PM
Is it impolite to say your head looks tiny behind that giant Sony?
Posted by: MarkB | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 12:27 PM
Others will no doubt point out that the final score was 49-23, not 49-17. Not that that makes a whole lot of difference.
I'm glad that you had a great time! My wife is a die-hard Packer's fan.
Posted by: Daniel Fealko | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 12:31 PM
Uhhhh... Being an adamant Bronco fan and enjoyer of this blog, I can't help but notice a glaring typo. The score was 49-23, thank you. Although I understand why the last score went unnoticed, mediocrity has that effect. We'll take all the points we can get against the machine that is the Green Bay Packers.
Posted by: Sam Trojanovich | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 12:33 PM
No lens hood?
Posted by: scotth | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 12:42 PM
My experience is the opposite, having grown up and regularly going to Baltimore Colt games at the old Memorial Stadium. Johnny U and all that.
Many memorable games were against the old Packers...Bart Starr, Paul Hornung and that gang. I vividly remember, though I could hardly see through the fog, the day Hornung scored 5 TDs to crush my team. His yellow and green blur cut through the fog all game long. But, that memory was offset by others, including the day 9 of us got into the stadium with only 7 tickets (don't ask) and we got field box seats for the Colt/Packer game. Two and a half minutes left in the game with the Colts down 10-0, only to see Johnny U throw 2 TD passes to win 13-10, one after an onside kick.
Ironically, it was the Colt team in 1958, in the famous sudden death game against the New York Giants (1st championship overtime in history) that propelled football into the television era. Prior to that game, baseball ruled the airwaves. (And, as a side point, it was another Colt game, in the 1969 championship against the Namath's New York Jets, that prompted the AFL/NFL merger.)
Well, we in Baltimore know the story from here. The Colts left town, the stadium eventually got torn down, and many years later the Ravens began playing in a new stadium adjacent to the Orioles' Camden Yards.
I no longer attend games in person, since TV has ruined that experience. The games used to take over an hour less, with no pauses for commercials. No 'jumbo-trons,' no replays. Crazy loud fans still, but the old stadium acoustics still allowed us to hear the pads cracking. And, somehow Gino Marchetti still seemed larger than life to me. Ah, the good ol' days.
But, I did watch the Ravens' defense crush the Jets on national TV last night. :)
Posted by: Jeff | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 12:52 PM
"The overarching lesson: one experience of any class of desirable thing is infinitely better than none."
But the real test is whether two is better than one.
Posted by: Speed | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 01:45 PM
Mark,
No, it would only be impolite to point out that I have a fat head. Which I actually kinda do. [g]
Mike
Posted by: Mike Johnston | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 01:48 PM
Thanks Daniel. Fixed now.
Mike
Posted by: Mike Johnston | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 01:50 PM
Speed,
I'd like to test that someday. I'll let you know.
Mike
Posted by: Mike Johnston | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 01:52 PM
Sam,
Sorry! I guess it was TWO Broncos touchdowns I missed.
Mike
Posted by: Mike Johnston | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 01:54 PM
Even though I was born and raised in Milwaukee, the only times I got to see the Packers were during the pre-season Shrine games in Milwaukee County Stadium in the late 1960s. I and some high school friends got to sell programs inside the gates as part of the fundraising for this annual benefit event. We sold the programs through the first half then got to watch the second half while standing at the top of the lower deck.
But this comment is about you, not me - sorry to digress. Great shots you took of the Packer fans! What I'm wondering is how plaid-shirted Fred from Oshkosh (where my wife was born, but again, I digress) and the guy standing in the background got their beers. Yes, I understand that beer is an integral part of the game day experience. And I also understand that beer is part of EVERY experience in Wisconsin. But they're drinking their beer in BOTTLES! Don't stadiums EVERYWHERE require that beers be poured into paper or plastic cups? You know, so that drunken rowdy fans can't launch glass missiles and injure their fellow drunken rowdy fans in the seats below? Or are Packer fans so civilized that they'd never initiate such mayhem? As a native Wisconsinite, I'd like to assume the latter.
Posted by: Carl Blesch | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 02:01 PM
Great shots of Lambeau, I don't remember ever seeing any before, just heard about it. Being a die-hard Charger fan I have to say it's spectacular compared to Quallcom. The flyover by the way is nothing compared to San Diego where Miramar NAS, where Top gun was filmed, is just 20 miles away...Very impressive with 5 to 7 planes and at a much lower ceiling. FYI - If you go to the game early you can, or could, always walk around that lower walkway at field level, great shots of players warming up. As long as everyone else is taking cheap shots let me say that I liked the one of Lambeaus exterior with you in the car mirror, too bad there wasn't a hot air baloon going by.
Posted by: David Zivic | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 02:16 PM
Did the gatekeepers give you any grief about bringing your camera inside the stadium? I have no experience with this personally, but I've had friends tell me unhappy stories about their efforts to bring their cameras with them into Diamondbacks and Cardinals games here in Phoenix.
Posted by: Jeffrey Goggin | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 02:22 PM
Yeah, well, I didn't think it was such a wonderful afternoon there.
--Marc (Boulder, CO)
Posted by: Marc Rochkind | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 02:30 PM
"Did the gatekeepers give you any grief about bringing your camera inside the stadium?"
No, but I checked beforehand. Jack says the prohibition is against lenses longer than 12 inches, although whether that's to discourage competition with the official photographers or just to avoid people being a nuisance in the stands with big clunky lenses I don't know.
Mike
Posted by: Mike Johnston | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 02:33 PM
Regarding beer bottles in the stadium. Mikes seats appear to have been what is referred to as "Club Level Seats". Always the ones right below the private boxes. The assumption being that that "class" of person won't launch projectiles at a public event. I assume no stadium would allow Raider fans into Club level. Certain priveleges apply there and waitress service with beer in bottles is one of them. People in the lower sections generally need to wait in line and get beer in plastic cups.
Posted by: David Zivic | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 02:51 PM
Jack says the prohibition is against lenses longer than 12 inches
See Mike, that's where an Olympus with the old-time 50-200 is heaven-sent. :) (About 6" collapsed.)
Posted by: erlik | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 02:57 PM
Perfect weather too! I was directly across the Fox River from you doing yard work in my backyard.
Posted by: Alex G. | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 03:01 PM
"Jack says the prohibition is against lenses longer than 12 inches..."
Then Green Bay's fans are luckier than most! I just checked the rules for the Arizona Cardinals and they are indeed more restrictive:
The following items are not permitted inside the stadium: Video cameras, mono/tripods and professional cameras with zoom lenses greater than 200mm or larger than eight inches in length.
Posted by: Jeffrey Goggin | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 03:36 PM
I remember the first time i got to go to Lambeau, back when the Pack was terrible and the stadium was yet to have sky boxes. I remember how neat it was to run to the top row and be able to look out of the stadium. I don't believe that is possible anymore.
Posted by: K. Praslowicz | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 04:31 PM
Mike,
for a while I did a job in the UK's Land (i.e. Army) Command HQ which required me to spend a couple of hours a week in coordinating requests for military shows at civilian events, in addition to the proper job. Inundated, and most unsatisfied.
But I'm left wondering, are these flyovers part of every major game, and more to the point, as Wisconsin is a long way from both coasts, did those F/A 18s make a special trip for this occasion? Unless you've got a local Navy or Marine Corps reserve base, they've burned a lot of fuel to get there.
Still, it is one aspect of Americana I fully support. I wish the UK supported our forces as much as you do in the USA.
Posted by: James B | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 04:39 PM
I normally don't watch much football, but I did watch the game yesterday on the off chance that you would be in one of the shots of the fans. I was looking for the photographer with smashed fingers. It seems that the TV cameras don't tilt upward far enough to have shown you. :-)
Posted by: Randall Teasley | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 05:03 PM
Jack says the prohibition is against lenses longer than 12 inches...
I've got a lens that's 12 inches long, but I don't use it as a rule.
Posted by: Antony Shepherd | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 06:20 PM
"If you have to be in the stands, cover the stands." Absolutely. From row 56, even the very best field shot is pretty pointless and static. But there's still a whole world around you, one that the photographers on the field can't catch. And there's all the stuff around the game and around the stadium, pre- and post-game. Some of my favorite shots ever, I took on campus before and after the games.
Posted by: Tom Brenholtw | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 06:29 PM
"I don't believe that is possible anymore."
K.,
Looks like it might still be possible at the south end of the stadium, but not for long: they'll soon build more seats down there. The new ones will be open (i.e., not skyboxes) but tiered, so you won't be able to run up them--you'll have to get to the top tier from inside.
Mike
Posted by: Mike Johnston | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 06:44 PM
Ha! James B, I was wondering the same thing. Where did those Hornets come from?
Mike, you remind me of the only live football experience of my life (so far) -- U of M vs Michigan State, at U of M. It was 15+ years ago and it was quite memorable.
Posted by: David A. | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 10:12 PM
"that "too local" phenomenon"
I worked in London for a little over a year. The only time I ever did the tourist thing was the weekend my parents and brother visited for my 21st birthday.
And yes, live football is hard to follow, at least for this non-native. High school football is big here, we lived across the street from the local HS and my youngest stepdaughter was in marching band, so I went to a couple of games. I was generally happy if I could figure out to within a 20 yard radius of where the ball was at any moment. Very different to watching it on TV.
Posted by: Paul Glover | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 11:23 PM
Hence the VAST superiority of the m4/3 system over the Sony; put the 20mm pancake on a Panny GF1 and no guard would look at it twice; stick the 100-300 (200-600 equiv) in your pocket (it's only five inches long, the guard would probably just think you were happy to be at the stadium) and you're all set to go. Crowd photography with the pancake, game photography with the stabilized 600.
JC
Posted by: John Camp | Monday, 03 October 2011 at 11:26 PM
Nice pictures Mike, great job.
Posted by: Player | Tuesday, 04 October 2011 at 09:48 AM
MIke,
I like the flyover. Even though you said you cannot rep. truely the atmosphere, I can sort of feel it and even the wave.
You should do more of this kind of story.
Good works!
Dennis
Posted by: Dennis Ng | Tuesday, 04 October 2011 at 10:31 AM
The last packer game I attended, I had left my SD card in the computer at home after downloading! ha,ha
I loved the comments about how taking pictures at an event, changes the experience. I find this true of sporting events, weddings, fireworks, etc. We could start another thread. Sometimes now when I really want to enjoy an event, and remember the event, I refuse to take any pictures!
At my last game, those beer bottles are plastic. They sure look like glass.
I believe the jets come out of a'reserve' base, in WI. So they are not the latest and greatest planes. But you'll never forget the feeling and the sound when they are above your head! USA..USA..USA
Posted by: Edward Mundt | Tuesday, 04 October 2011 at 10:59 AM
Looks like you had a blast with your a900. The viewfinder alone is quite a treat.
Posted by: Bob Rosinsky | Tuesday, 04 October 2011 at 11:20 AM
"...visited Yankee Stadium last year (not anymore the House that Ruth Build)"
- It's now The House That Greed Built.
"But, I did watch the Ravens' defense crush the Jets on national TV last night. :)"
- So did I. :(
Posted by: toto | Tuesday, 04 October 2011 at 12:42 PM
Waiting to catch a flight the other night at SeaTac, I overheard a conversation among some Scottish passengers who had attended the Seahawks game the day before---they were in hysterics about how a game with 60 minutes on the clock took 3 hours to play.
Posted by: Chuck Albertson | Wednesday, 05 October 2011 at 12:35 AM
Hi, been reading Your blog for a long time. This is my first comment. Not related to photography, though.
I don't really understand what a military aircraft flying over has to do with a sporting event. Seems like war propaganda to me. I would hate paying good money for tickets, and than being forced to worship the military. I don't even like the anthems at a start of a game. Does the government pay for this advertising like other corporate sponsors?
Posted by: Aleksandar | Monday, 10 October 2011 at 08:45 AM