David Dyer Bennet wrote, in a comment to the "Five Favorites" post: "I've had a list of 'five best science fiction novels' (in my opinion) for forever, and one of my rules has always been that the list could not have five names on it. For years it was four, and a while ago it finally jumped to six, after years. The basic names have remained the same, though, in my case. Anyway—I'm not the person to give you grief over having something other than five items on your 'five best' list!"
To which, sebastel responded: "I'd really like to know what are David's favourite SF novels...."
And Michael Walsh added: "Oh come on—David has to give us his list of six favourite sci-fi novels!!"
So, aiming ever to please, I asked him if he would, and here is his answer. Drum roll....
David Dyer-Bennet: "I should remind people that this has never claimed to be more than my own personal choices; I do not assert any right to decide for anybody else! Also, my list does not include works that I consider to be fantasy (despite the fact that no really solid line between science fiction and fantasy can be established)."
The List
Dune (Frank Herbert, 1965)
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (Robert A. Heinlein, 1966)
Lord of Light (Roger Zelazny, 1967)
The Mote in God's Eye (Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, 1974)
A Fire Upon the Deep (Vernor Vinge, 1992)
Growing Up Weightless (John M. Ford, 1993)."
David adds, "However...as an important article of faith, there are no sequels to Dune!"
So there you have it. Thanks David.
Mike
P.S. The thing I love about lists is when they distill deep knowledge. When somebody really knows a subject, then their list stands a chance to be truly interesting. For instance, wouldn't you love to hear John Camp's list of his five favorite thrillers? John once accused me of "not reading the books," i.e., thrillers, and I protested that I had read six of them to try to get up to speed with the genre. John replied, "Six! Mike, I sometimes read six a week!" I don't need to hear John's list of his five favorite ballets, or his five favorite communist countries, or his five favorite tropical hardwoods, but I'd love to hear his five favorite thrillers because the man really knows his thrillers. I'd love to hear Ken Tanaka's or Jim Sherwood's or Geoff Wittig's five favorite photobooks, too, or see Rodger Kingston's five favorite found snapshots. Or Paul Reed Smith's five favorite guitars. Or JH's five favorite cars. Or my son Xander's five favorite board games.
It's often difficult to get such "deep experts" to make such lists because the more they know, the more they know about what they don't know, and thus the more problematic such list-compiling exercises seems to them to be. But if they'd just relax and play the game (it is just a game, after all), they would do better at it than 99% of the gen-pop.
Think it over—is there any enthusiasm or field or subject you know deeply enough that it could result in such a list?
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Eamon Hickey: "I just started looking for some new science fiction to read, after many years of not reading it, so this is very timely.
"I have one huge frustration with masterpieces like Dune or Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy—you can only have that wondrous, mind-bending, sublime first encounter with them once. If induced, precisely targeted partial amnesia were a thing, I'd pay to have my memories of Dune erased, so I could read it fresh again.
"Of course, I do re-read the masterpieces—I've read Tinker, Tailor and the other Karla books about once every five years since I was 18—and they are still very enjoyable. And as I accumulated life experience, I could appreciate certain parts of them in new ways. But I long for that feeling I had the first time I read them, when every page filled me with wonder and expanded my sense of the power of art and artists.
"The other frustration is that the greats can make ordinary art or craftsmanship hard to enjoy for me. I always know how good it could really be, if done by a master."
Keith: "The thing about favorites is that it can inadvertently affect ones ability to be open to new things. If we define something as our favorite, we bestow upon it a status of being better than all other possible options. By doing so we risk becoming close minded, relegating everything else as being lesser than. To the point of being defensive about our choices, we can stubbornly refuse to acknowledge alternatives as better than our chosen favorite, which would otherwise prove that we were wrong in the first place. While it is common language to define something as our 'favorite,' I try to think of any given group of favorites as simply 'things I really like.' Doing so allows one to grow this list rather than embracing the status quo of a fixed, single or limited group of things based on subjective and biased opinion. That being said, TOP is one of the five photography blogs I really like."
Mike replies: Point taken. I have a list of things that were favorites when I first encountered them that I don't like so much any more. Tastes change. I've noticed that when favorites don't change, it's usually because I decided not to continue engaging with that field of study, or genre, or hobby, or enthusiasm.
John Kauk: First, thanks for putting David's list up. I've read and loved the first four on the list and just bought the fifth on the Apple Books app. I also would love to see see John Camp's list of thrillers. I first started reading his books when you mentioned them in a TOP post, and before the end of that summer I had read all his books. And continue to as new ones are published. Excellent stories all, so thanks for mentioning them."
JH (Jim Hayes): "Well, Mike, that sounds like a reasonable request, if not a challenge.
"I have a theory about why people have favorite cars—it's tied to experiences they had in their formative years—taking an exciting family trip, getting their driver's license, using a big backseat with their...no, let's skip that one.
"By the way, highly recommended reading for car fans is the Autoweek article on Ralph Lauren's opinions on cars and his collection.
"Now for my list:
Five Favorite Cars
Alfa Giulia TI sedan—my first Alfa, took me across the US several times, from Watkins Glen to Laguna Seca, school at UC Santa Cruz and SUNY Stony Brook. A hundred and seventy thousand miles of great experiences.
That's the Giant Artichoke in Watsonville, California, 1967.
Ferrari 250LM—the first car I rode in at an indicated 300 KPH on the street—this one was a ex-racer converted to the street and owned by a restaurant owner from New Orleans (he's second from the right) who always stopped by to visit the Ferrari dealer where my brother was sales manager.
A Lamborghini Muira was the second one I saw 300 KPH in—and a milestone in auto design too.
Can-Am racing cars of the '60s and early '70s. This is a Chaparral. Unlimited racers—simply awesome. I was a mechanic on a few. By the way, this photo from Laguna Seca in 1997 was taken with a Leica M2 and Elmarit 90mm. How did I do that?
Alfa Giulietta Spider—the car my brother and I raced in the '60s and I rescued from a barn in 1992, restored, and raced for another dozen years. It's still racing—55 years old. (Photo with Miata below.)
Miata—I've owned two and loved them both. In New England, my goal was to drive it with the top down as much as possible and in every month of the year. I made it almost every year.
David Dyer-Bennet: "My hardcover Dune is a first edition. Something like 68th printing, and hence of no particular value, but a first edition. :-)
"The modern author I maybe should have found a place for is Greg Egan—something back around Distress or Diaspora maybe. Baxter, Banks, Liu, Dick, and even Jemisin haven't really connected for me (Jemisin is on my list to keep trying for a bit).
"Two authors I feel bad about not having included are Lois McMaster Bujold and Edward E. 'Doc' Smith. Smith is in some sense my favorite author, but no particular book seems to me to belong on this list (Skylark Duquesne is closest, but it's the last book of a series). I've probably re-read Smith books more than anybody else. Similarly, the Heinlein book I've read most is The Rolling Stones, which is not the one I list on the 'best' list. In Lois's books I guess A Civil Campaign would be the one I'd put on this list, and it's the conclusion of the rather long arc about Miles' romantic life, you'd miss so much starting there.
"To connect just slightly back to photography, Wikipedia is still using my photos of Robert Heinlein and John M. Ford."
John Camp: "I don't think I could come up with a list of my five favorite thriller books. I'd even have a hard time coming up with my five favorite thriller authors, who between them, if I could actually pick five, might have written a hundred books that I mostly like. The problem is, I've read way too many of thrillers in a sort of analytical way, picking them apart for my own uses—especially those books that I most like, and of course, you always find faults when you do that, things you think were done poorly. When I (rarely) re-read one of my own books, I'm still stuck in that analytical mode, and there are several, frankly, that I wish I could do over. The analytical mode has its own pleasures, of course, but it's confusing when you consider things like picking a top five list. So I ask Mike—do you really think you could come up with your five favorite photographs? I might be able to, because I'm an amateur, and not so deeply invested in them. I bet you'd have a hard time, though. With big expensive objects like cars, it's not so hard, because even an enthusiast may only encounter a couple of dozen great cars in a lifetime; the list of possibilities is much smaller.
"I might be able to pick my top five SF books, but I'd have to think about it. Dune wouldn't be on the list. Herbert reads like he thought he was writing the Bible, IMHO. I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Flowers for Algernon, which was both a great short story and a pretty decent novel. On the Beach might be on my list as well. Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea? I dunno."