The fad from my time, in a current lens
It's official: this is an era. The era of what I've snarkily dubbed the great big honkin' normal (BHN) lens. It's a distinct fad or craze that will probably be dated one day.
Here's DPReview's article about the forthcoming SongRaw Moonlit (15 elements in 10 groups, four ED [extra-low dispersion] elements, seven HR [high refractive index] elements, two aspherical elements). It's alleged to be the first full-frame ƒ/1.2 autofocus lens from a Chinese maker. No specs, prices, or availability in my country yet, that I know of. It appears to be Shenzhen SongRaw's only product so far.
These things don't appeal to me, but there might be a reason for that. In the early 1970s (I was 14 in 1971), Olympus made the first of its popular miniaturized 35mm bodies. Then-mighty Pentax followed suit—ever held an ME Super? Even Nikon, king of pro cameras back then, responded with a few small and svelte models: not just the FM and its similar-bodied stablemates; a few diehard iconoclasts will remember the EM and the Series-E lenses. The Contax 139Q that I went through photography school with was reasonably within the boundaries of the small and light body styles of the day. (I later got the larger, heavier Contax RTS II, and, to my surprise, didn't like it as well. It was promptly stolen from me, which I accepted as a sign from the Universe.) Leica rangefinders had always been small, at least as defined at the time—the Leica CL that my high school buddy Art Elkon had was even smaller. The Leica M lenses and the wonderful OM Zuiko line were mostly very light, small, and compact. The Leica C (for "compact") lenses for the CL even more so. That was the fashion at that time. It would be interesting to put the Olympus OM-Zuiko 50mm ƒ/1.2 next to the Songraw Moonlit. It might look like an original Austin Mini next to a Hummer*.
Small and light was the fad that I grew up with, is all. It was what was cool at the time. That's probably mostly why I like it. I got a little endorphin charge when I saw the Pentax 70mm ƒ/2.4 again, that I will be sending out with the Pentax Monochrome body—130g (4.6 oz.) with its built-in hood. That's it in the top illustration—and it's bigger than the 21mm that will also be in the box.
I suspect that today's younger photography and camera enthusiasts are growing up with a different fashion holding sway—and that when they're my age now, they'll be looking back with rosy nostalgia on the great big lenses of now as "the way things are supposed to be." They'll get that little charge when they see a great big oversized lens...like an old SongRaw Moonlit.
Nothing new under the sun....
Here's the manufacturer page for the SongRaw Moonlit. Pretty images. And a slick and well-made page, complete with MTF curves for ƒ/1.2 and ƒ/1.4.
Mike
CORRECTION: The first version of this article said the Moonlit is the first ƒ/1.2 lens from a Chinese lensmaker. It is the first full-frame autofocus lens of that speed. Management regrets the error, and will fire the writer as soon as a replacement is found.
*Actually the smallest car I ever saw (and sat in!) was the original Honda Civic. A dealer had one on display. It was a little larger than, say, a suit of armor.
That's an early Doug video, by the way. He's now a YouTube multimillionaire.
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Sroyon: "I was born after the Olympus OM/Pentax ME era, but like you I'm a fan of small lenses. Nevertheless I was thinking perhaps we should differentiate between fast BHN (with a max aperture of ƒ/1.2 or wider) like the SongRaw, versus not-so-fast BHN (ƒ/1.4 and smaller). The way I see it, a full-frame autofocus ƒ/1.2 lens is bound to be big, unless they make dramatic compromises in optical quality. Whereas the not-so-fast BHN are generally big because the manufacturers wanted to make a lens which is extraordinarily well-corrected, at the expense of compactness and weight. Thus the motivations of people who buy fast versus not-so-fast BHN are probably somewhat different. Also I feel there are lots of new lenses being produced in general, especially with all the Chinese manufacturers joining the party. Including some very small lenses like the new Fuji 23mm ƒ/2.8, and 7Artisans' new 10mm ƒ/3.5. So there's a market for that too!"
Tom Burke: "Partaking as I do in a (different) forum dedicated for users of the Canon mirrorless camera that I use, I can report that a number of people buy a BHN (or the APS-C equivalent) because they’ve been told that the wider the maximum aperture, the greater the lens is. Having bought the lens, they then use it at that maximum aperture for most of their shots. Until they appeal for advice to the forum, at which point someone advises them to use a smaller aperture. But there’s a definite belief out there that an ƒ/1.4 or wider lens must be better than an ƒ/2 or even ƒ/2.8 lens, at all apertures."
BG: "Big honkin' cameras and big honkin' lenses were popular back in the SLR era, too. It's the macho I'm-a-serious he-man photographer thing. Look at the size of my cameras; it proves I am serious. Nothing changes over time...."
Maggie Osterberg: "When I was a teenager, I wanted everyone to know that I was a PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER dammit! So, I had a big Nikon SLR, with a big potato-masher flash, and a big lens. Which looked pretty ridiculous on my then 5'2" frame! But by golly, folks knew I was serious. By the time I got to my forties, I figured out that unless you're shooting sports, big ≠ good. Best thing I ever did was to get a Leica, with nice small lenses, and then an X100. As E.F. Schumacher wrote, 'Small Is Beautiful.'"
James: "You could, instead of complaining, herald the Sigma Contemporary DG DN series. The 45mm is, in particular, a standout."
Mike replies: James, that's my lens.
Loved my Pentex ME Super! My father gave it to me as he never seemed to understand SLRs.
Posted by: MARILYN NANCE | Sunday, 20 July 2025 at 12:53 PM
Light Lens Lab made a replica of the original f/1.2 Noctilux.
https://lightlenslab.com/products/light-lens-lab-50mm-1-2-asph-1966
May be a copy, but it's definitely a f/1.2 lens from a Chinese maker.
[Thanks Ben. I added a correction to the post. —Mike]
Posted by: Ben | Sunday, 20 July 2025 at 04:46 PM
I had both a Pentax ME and an original Civic. Miss them both, and I still gravitate toward smaller, lighter cameras and cars. Once had a pretty complete full-frame Nikon kit, which took wonderful pictures but which I got tired of carrying around, and which my wife got tired of my complaining about: "Suck it up," she said more than once.
Posted by: Charlie Ewers | Sunday, 20 July 2025 at 05:08 PM
I don't doubt for a minute that what we grew up with as photographers influences what we like to this day. For me, at least, another age-related factor (I'm 68) is simply growing tired of lugging around heavy equipment. A 2 lb. normal lens? No thanks.
I recently picked up a Nikon Z50ii body with 18-140mm lens (27-210mm equivalent on the APS-C body). I bought it mainly as a walking-around camera – better than my phone, smaller than my full-frame DSLR, a Nikon D750. The Z50ii covers virtually the same range of focal lengths as the 2-lens kit I've used with the D750, but is 4.5 lbs. lighter (a 72% reduction). In the limited like-for-like tests I've done with the two cameras so far, I have a slight preference for the images from the Z50ii.
So even though I bought it for "walking-around," when I look at the two cameras, at this point I'm feeling happier picking up the Z50ii for whatever I'm shooting.
D750 w/70-200mm, and Z50ii w/18-140mm:

Posted by: Peter Conway | Sunday, 20 July 2025 at 05:26 PM
I'd like to see some photo blogger testing the actual light transmission through these ostensibly f1.2 lenses with over a dozen glass elements, or fast zooms with even more. Show us the T-Stops! I suspect something's getting lost in transmission.
Posted by: John McMillin | Sunday, 20 July 2025 at 05:41 PM
I own the 70mm limited lens. It is lovely.
My favorite Pentax limited of that era, is the 15mm limited, which easily makes fantastic starbursts.
These lens are focused by the camera body and are a bit loud compared to today’s lens. Doesn’t bother me. 😀
What a fun project.
Posted by: Mark Richards | Sunday, 20 July 2025 at 05:54 PM
Yes to smaller lenses!
Also – the smallest car I ever rode in was an old Fiat 500 (not the new EV version). My wife and I were taken on a road tour of Brazil in that diminutive jalopy by my aunt and a driver. There were potholes bigger than the car.
Posted by: Yonatan Katznelson | Sunday, 20 July 2025 at 06:44 PM
I learned to drive in one of those original Austin/Morris/BLMC Minis. It felt like you were Rat Fink reaching up to grasp the end of the gear lever – pity you had to deal with 20mm of flex before the business end of the lever started to move. Between that, the pull-cord door release and not being able to see past the car in front I'm fairly glad they're no longer a thing.
Posted by: Kevin Crosado | Sunday, 20 July 2025 at 07:12 PM
Sounds interesting, but as an Olympus user, I'm still blown away by their (50mm equiv) 25mm f1.2 which sports 19 elements in 14 groups, and is supposed to be quite good! So it should be at the price! Dunno, never used one. Hooley gallooley!
Posted by: Bruce Hedge | Sunday, 20 July 2025 at 07:42 PM
I had an ME Super when I was in high school, and really loved the size and ergonomics. Unfortunately it was stolen. When Pentax DSLRs came out I got one of the early ones, not out of brand loyalty (as I'd had a Canon T90 in the interim) but again because I liked the size and ergonomics.
I owned the 70mm Limited you talk about here, and it was both very small and light, and exceptionally sharp. The 21 was also great, and the 35mm Macro too (though a tad slow focusing even for the time).
My theory for the rise of big honkin lenses of all types is that if someone is after small and light as a priority they'll just use their phone. The reason to step up to a "real" camera is to make a big leap, which is partly why full frame has become so popular.
These days I shoot Fuji, and I think Fujifilm is following similar logic - they won't make money at the low-end, and the midrange will be crowded. So they're going more premium, with a focus on the experience (since that's the other reason to move beyond smartphone cameras).
Posted by: Adam Richardson | Sunday, 20 July 2025 at 08:35 PM
I've used several quite small lenses that were optically very good to their rated corners, the Pentax 70/2.4 and Panasonic 20/1.7 among them.
Posted by: Joe Kashi | Sunday, 20 July 2025 at 10:49 PM
The lenses I bought and used (still use) with my Nikon FM- and FE-series cameras are nice and compact yet still manage to have rather large maximum apertures. I always considered those cameras to be the ideal size. That's why, despite having "better" and bigger cameras, I only travel with the Z50ii and also enjoy shooting with it at home.
Posted by: Gary | Monday, 21 July 2025 at 12:30 AM
The things with BHN is that they are honkin' big and unwieldy. I have a 35 1.4, not technically a normal, and although its optical performance is close to flawless I now use an F 2.8 lens instead. It weighs a third and is one third the volume of the 1.4. Stopped down to my normal working apertures it's hard to tell any difference at all.
The result is that now I actually bring my camera with me. What a joy!
Posted by: Viktor H | Monday, 21 July 2025 at 03:06 AM
I have the Zuiko 55mm f1.2 and still use it. I never saw the later 50mm version, but I was surprised to see mir.com.my listing them as having the same weight (310g). The 55mm feels a bit chunky by Zuiko standards, and has a 55mm filter thread.
I loved all the small semi-fast Zuiko primes, all with the same 49mm filter size
Posted by: Richard Tugwell | Monday, 21 July 2025 at 07:17 AM
Hmm. My own photography involves walking, often off-track and physically demanding. Obviously I have to carry my equipment along, so I'm not in the target group for these lenses - as probably the vast majority around here. I wonder for which purposes these lenses are used? Weddings? Studio work? For event photography they are probably too large and heavy, and corner sharpness at full aperture is probably irrelevant, too. Maybe someone who actually uses them could chime in and report about his motivation?
Posted by: Thomas Rink | Monday, 21 July 2025 at 07:31 AM
Don't like those large lenses either, however they unfortunately have a reason: newer lenses need to be even more betterer (with higher and higher pixelcounts, and to keep the marketing types and the internet happy anyway), and for that they need more glass, and they need to get heavier to feel like it's build like a tank. I'm afraid compact is a niche market now that competes with old(er) lenses. There is always Voigtlander/Cosina with their lenses, whenever they are available.
Posted by: Lars Jansen | Monday, 21 July 2025 at 07:38 AM
A good lens choice to go with the Monochrome; I assume that's the 21mm f/3.2 you are sending out with it, not the full frame 21mm f/2.4, three times the size and weight of the f/3.2.
Though I must admit, I do like the idea of a 21mm f/2.4 lens on a full frame camera...
Posted by: Roger Bradbury | Monday, 21 July 2025 at 08:37 AM
"...ever held an ME Super?"
I had the Pentax ME Super. It was terrific size-wise, but after the hype of the push buttons to change the shutter speeds wore off, some weaknesses showed up. The LEDs in the finder that glowed next to the shutter speed on the scale with every speed being permanently displayed was great in low light, but not strong enough in super bright light, like on a beach. Also, for an aperture priority camera, the lack of a depth-of-field preview was not optimal.
Since I had acquired several Pentax primes for the camera, I bought a Pentax MX and then an LX and never touched the ME Super again.
FWIW, One great thing about the Pentax back in the manual focus era is that unlike so many other brands, is that the focus direction and aperture direction was the same as Nikkor lenses, making the concurrent use of Pentax and Nikon cameras easy in terms of muscle memory.
Posted by: Albert Smith | Monday, 21 July 2025 at 08:41 AM
One of the only really good landscape pictures I ever took was done with an old Nikon 75-150E lens. The perfect short telephoto for a 35mm frame.
It has always puzzled me why all the digital stuff is so BIG.
My favorite non-phone camera right now is the Sony RX100 m7 "point and shoot". Yeah it's a clunky fixed zoom lens and not quite as flexible as the system cameras. But it fits in the smallest of bags and it does tracking autofocus better than all of my Olympus bodies ever did, and about as well as the giant Nikon Z stuff that I gave up on and gave away.
I like this camera so much that I picked up a small Sony APS-C kit, and am slowly sellng off most of my long-loved relatively tiny Olympus stuff.
Posted by: psu | Monday, 21 July 2025 at 12:47 PM
"*Actually the smallest car I ever saw (and sat in!) was the original Honda Civic. A dealer had one on display. It was a little larger than, say, a suit of armor."
That's probably a luxury car, compared to one I rode in. A Honda N600. Two cylinders and owned by a "kid" who helped his dad with Formula 2 tires in Europe during the summers. Did I mention this two-cylinder had a misfiring spark plug wire? It was like having the brakes slammed to the floor and then taking off in a very low gear when the wire would decide to deliver electricity to only one spark plug!
Posted by: Dave | Monday, 21 July 2025 at 01:22 PM
How long before one comes with a tripod mount?
Posted by: Dan | Monday, 21 July 2025 at 05:57 PM
I've always gone the way of light and compact for my camera gear, so this trend is very foreign to me. I'm primarily a street shooter so any excess weight or bulk just slows me down and makes things less efficient overall. Adds friction to the system as Thom Hogan might say.
As for small cars, a friend of mine had one of those early Honda Civics but I was never inside of it. Looked pretty tiny on the outside. The smallest car I've owned would be my Citroen 2CV, the size of a VW bug but considerably lighter.
When I was four years old, in 1954, my father replaced his '36 Plymouth coupe with a '48 Crosley. That car was so small that I thought it was for me; he said that I had been very pissed-off when told that it was his.
Dad was a real car guy, and as I was growing up we had a variety of vehicles of all shapes, sizes, and nationalities. I recall several Renaults, some Falcons and Merc Comets, four Mustangs, a Ford Consul, a Triumph Spitfire, an Opel, a 1950 Nash, a '53 Ford sedan delivery, a Kaiser Henry J, and a huge yellow boat of a Lincoln Continental ragtop he named The Big Banana. I'm sure that if he had he the funds he would have loved to put together a collection. But because he was a school teacher he never really had much spare cash. He was only able to pull this off because he did all the mechanical and body work himself. His collection was more along the lines of automotive serial monogamy. Whenever he bought another new old car he would sell the previous one. He bought his first car when he was twelve, a Model T for $3.
In about 1970 he had a chance to pick up a pristine 1957 Bentley for a very low price. Car had only about six or seven thousand original miles on it and had all the options, including the cocktail bar built into the rear of the front passenger seat. Story was it's owner had died shortly after buying the car new and it sat in a garage for all those years, its ownership tied up in a probate battle. Dad really liked the car and he could swing the purchase price, but even with doing all the wrenching himself, realized that in the end he couldn't afford to maintain it properly. The price of just the ignition tune-up kit was $125 at a time when the kit for an average 6 or 8 cylinder american car was under $10. All the other expendables for the car were priced accordingly. The book value of the car was actually surprisingly low because the usual buyers of such a car, wealthy people, had no interest in a thirteen year-old vehicle. The fact that it had been Bogart's car made no difference because celebrity-owned cars were not yet a thing then.
Posted by: Jeff Markus | Monday, 21 July 2025 at 06:21 PM
The Minolta XD-7 was released two years before the Pentax ME Super. Developed in collaboration with Leica and the basis of the Leica R4, it was a little jewel of a camera. The lenses were small and light, as was the fashion at the time. It was arguably the best camera that Minolta made. The lenses of that time were indeed small and light but, with maybe a few exceptions, had nowhere near the resolution of current lenses designed for digital.
Posted by: Bob Johnston | Tuesday, 22 July 2025 at 01:52 AM
You could, instead of complaining, herald the Sigma Contemporary DG DN series. The 45mm is, in particular, a standout.
[James, that's my lens. —Mike]
Posted by: James | Wednesday, 23 July 2025 at 01:09 AM
There is a recent interesting comparison of Nikon's new 35 1.2 with the Leica 35 1.4 Summilux (adapted to his Nikon). The photographer (spoiler alert) loves both, but prefers the Leica. Of course, it costs double.
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/68353610
Posted by: John Krumm | Wednesday, 23 July 2025 at 11:43 AM
As Bruce Hedge pointed out, OLY already did this for µ4/3 sensors, nine years ago.
25/1.2 - 3 HR, 2 ED, 1 E-HR, 1 HR, 1 Super-ED
Also, 45/1.2 - 1 ED, 4 HR, 1 aspherical
When these came out, I ignored them, thinking they were just about the "mine is bigger/faster than yours" market. Now they are favorites. All that fanciness is about the same thing as the SongRaw Moonlit; great bokeh and, rarer, very smooth transitions from in to out of focus.
That's part of what I see in some of the "Pretty images." you mention on their web site. OTOH, there is also some busy/edgy bokeh in a couple. I think the Oly bokeh is a bit better, based on the few images on their site.
I despair of showing what I'm talking about in the tiny images that fit here.
(F2, for the right DoF)
Less obvious may be their ability to do something that hasn't been possible (without egregious effort) on smaller formats since classic LF days, lots of non-edgy fine detail together with deep DoF.
Oly/OMS focus bracketing, together with very wide apertures and a focus stacking app, does this magic thing.
Posted by: Moose | Friday, 25 July 2025 at 06:20 PM