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Tuesday, 11 February 2025

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For my work bodies, currently Sony A1 and A93, I always get the grips. More balanced handling with larger lenses and vertical trigger. But if I'm being honest, I really wish they felt, in the hand, like the Hasselblad X2D. That camera just feels right if you are going to have a camera the size of a mirrorless plus a grip.

For me, it's a supply issue. If a very high percentage of a specific camera's users feel that a grip, including the shoe mounted thumbgrip, is needed, then put it in the box. Don't make the customer try to find what they should have to make the camera ergonomically sound.

I have supplemental grips on my X-T bodies, actual Fujifilm products. I also have both body and thumbgrips on my X-E and X-Pro bodies. Especially on the last two, after using the thumbgrip, the cameras are unusable without them IMO. So if these are of value and necessary, put them in the box and add fifty bucks to the price. I spent months running down all the peices for my cameras and had to go multiple online routes to acquire them.

When Fujifilm released the X-E4, it was truly a bar of soap camera. They were happy to sell both a front body grip and a thumbgrip requiring two separate purchases for about $180 combined. The true cost was probably $40. They should have been included with the camera, eliminating the user's need to find and buy them separately.

It's completely fair to slam a camera for not having a grip, as it would be completely fair to slam one for not having a back LCD. Sure, no camera made before year X had LCD's, but they do now, and they do because they're useful. Cameras have grips now because they're useful, because they make the camera easier to hold, easier to use, easier to take a picture. Aftermarket grips are not integrated, not as well fitted, and are an additional cost and additional time-suck to find and purchase one. For a camera that is already far too expensive for what it is, that's too many additionals.

There are plenty of hand straps available, why get a grip...
As to the OM-3 I think OMDS has figured out how to appeal to a niche market and not try to be all things to all. I hope they do well with this.

If you're holding a camera with a heavy lens, like at the Olympics say, then a grip is really nice. If you're walking around downtown, taking a shot every 5-10 min, then who cares. That is to say, it's something to mention in a review but there's no need to make a fetish out of it. My Spotmatic doesn't have a grip, and I've never missed it.

Another complaint that I read online was that it only has one card slot. I understand that this matters to a pro on assignment, but would a pro on assignment use an OM-3? Lots of people have used cameras with only one card slot. Everybody relax now.

For me your comments regarding camera body grips were spot on. As far as I am concerned I prefer to get the feel of the camera with no or a minimal grip. Then if I want something more I can choose the size that suits me. I don’t need some designer forcing their opinion of the right size grip on me.

I have two OM-4T's and one OM-2S, all with the accessory Olympus grips, with a spare grip in storage. I also have the OM-1's and OM-2's, all without the grip option. I actually came to prefer the small grip, for the way I walk around with the camera. The actual Oly grips are priced in the ridiculous category on EBAY, they seem to range from $60 to $140!
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I started out with a Pentax KX in 1975 when Pentax changed to the K-mount. The KX had no grip, like most off the cameras of that era. It was still good to handle, and I still have it. Must get it out for it's 50th anniversary this year!!! Also had the Pentax semi-soft case for transporting the camera. It looks really good and "traditional".

I've also got a couple of Pentax LX cameras and the soft cases for them as well. And the LX Grip B makes handling and holding the LX better than without the grip. BUT ... When you add the grip to the Pentax LX it no longer fits in the soft case.

And the same could be said for othe cameras with grips. Once you've got a grip on a camera the sort of case you put it in becomes more bulky, such that I've not got a case for any camera with a grip apart from the dedicated case for the Canon 300D from 2003. Grips on cameras just make the cases more bulky and "ugly"

The Nikon F3 had a very nice grip as an integral part of the body.

"In an ideal situation, I'd prefer being able to choose my grip size from several alternatives, as you could with the X-T1."

Which hints at the biggest problem with built-in grips: what if it doesn't fit your hand, or preferred hold or shooting style, or you just plain don't like the design, material or finish? You're simply out of luck.

Yes, a camera having no built-in grip means some of us may need to buy one, but generally it also means options.

I once owned a Pentax KP DSLR (strangest name ever for a camera that I think you also pointed out at the time…) that came with three different sized attachable grips, seemed like a good idea, but in reality none were quite “right”… Much better to just get it really well done/thought out as a part of the overall design, Nikon comes to mind or leave it entirely to the aftermarket with many choices, i,e., your Sigma FP. Interesting that “grips” have become such a “thing” over time.

an entire column about grips....

Last weekend I attended an OM promo event on Boulder that focused on the new OM-3. OM's US manager was there. When asked, he said that they don't plan to offer a handgrip, but some other company that specializes in is surely working on one.

It's a shame cameras aren't more modular, given the amount of hand assembly that goes into them anyway. I'd like to order a camera with/without any of the following:
- a grip, or not (I loved my original E-M5 electronic grip)
- a flippy / tilty / no LCD (that would save some arguments)
- a regular baseplate, or an Arca-Swiss style plate (I use an add-on, but would rather not)

etc

to use a poor analogy (I know cameras and cars are not the same process / market / numbers etc) but when I order a car they upsell me on everything. But with a camera it's one and done.

Then buy the OM-1. It has a grip.

I think I would like the CP button. But I don't have to decide since I have the OM-1 II.

I like the grip, but have no idea how I would react to not having one.

Since you mentioned grips that could be added to older cameras, don't forget the wooden grip for Pentax 67. The OM-3 would be a delight to handle without a grip compared to a 67 without a grip.

I feel you on the XT-1 - I had an XT-2 and XH-1 after mine, and neither were as perfect as the original. That Sony 16MP sensor was magic; I wish I'd kept that body and the 35.

As for grips, I like choices. Having found a good option for my ZF, I can choose between a smaller body with the 26 or add the grip with everything else - but tooling around Disney with the smaller option is a lot more convenient. The Fuji XH-1 had a truly marvelous grip, wonderful to shoot with the 50-140, but that camera felt like a cow when I threw the 35 on.

The OM-3 has a very tiny 'grip' at the back to rest your thumb. Same as on my PEN-F. It works well with small body.
I have a simple strap that's always round the wrist of my right hand. When I am going to take a picture I grab the body with my thumb at the 'grip,' my middle finger at the front and my index finger at the shutter button. No additional grip needed. However, with the Pentax 67 I once had...

the first popular mainstream camera with a (big) grip that I remember was the Konica FS-1 of 1979 (like many grips today the size was partly determined by need for battery space).
As a Konica user, it wasn't my fave - I have no need for motor drive.
ps one reason bigger cameras have bigger grips is weight - I use one of the tiny Sony RX100 and do find the tiny stick on grip a great help for one-hand use.

Just from a historical perspective, the Konica FS-1 from the late 1970’s was the first camera I remember that had a “grip”, essentially necessary to house the 4 AA batteries for the built-in motorized film advance which of course became the design standard for many cameras thereafter - beginning of the end of the film advance lever! fascinating camera of it’s time, and also may be one of the first to offer a compact 40mm (f1.8) lens as an option to the common 50/55mm standard lens.

If Thom wants a Nikon he should buy a Nikon...Oh wait...He DID buy a nikon.

the X-T4 with the OEM Fuji battery grip is excellent....

I just want to mention that I have an OM-3 and it also has the same threaded hole on the right side as the OM-4 and I have the grip somewhere.

I think, maybe obviously, the grip depends on the camera size and the lenses and/or attachments on it. Personally, if the camera approaches a rangefinder size and weight, the grip is less of an issue. But there are cases where it’s helpful. So, I’d rather have the option of putting on my own as needed.

I have a bunch of PEN-Fs, my go to camera. I found a perfect little grip on EBay. It's small and made of a nice colored wood. Makes it a perfect camera...for me. Good size and never in the way. When i do put a heavy lens on the grip becomes essential. As I wrote before, shave the prism off the OM-3 and put in the 25mp newer sensor and you have a sale.

I have tremendous respect for Thom Hogan, but perhaps the retro camera phenomenon might be a niche, not a fad.

I've had a Nikon Zf for about 7 months now, after 10 years of DSLR use, which was after decades of film SLR use. Using the Zf is kind of like driving a right-hand drive car with a manual transmission. (Which I have done.) You get used to it, and it can take you where you want to go, but it isn't ideal for all roads. I quite like it, but wouldn't recommend it to everyone.

I mostly agree but with one quibble. The classic 35mm Exakta is not a soap bar camera. The shape is nearly triangular. (see, e.g., http://www.cjs-classic-cameras.co.uk/other/exakta-top.jpg)

My first camera was an Exakta 500, the highest point of the low-end Exakta-derived Exa camera line. It has something of a squished oval shape. The final image on http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Exa_500 shows this shape well.

You've written about your beloved Exakta 66, which could be described as a soap bar with a box in the middle.

I can't believe I'm reading a column about grips, but here we are. Best grip ever? That big, honkin' wooden grip for the Pentax 6X7.

I like Thom Hogan but I do think every now and then he's off. I still vividly remember when he called/predicted the first X100 Fuji would be a super nova - meaning - it explodes rapidly in popularity and then it all fades away.

Nothing of the sort has happened with the X100 line. It got some degree of success and then it exploded in popularity with the X100V, which to this day both X100V and X100VI are highly sought after. Even if the craze diminishes, the X100 was already enjoying a moderate degree of success on its own.

I am with the other commenter that said that Retro is more of a niche than a fad. It's just that right now It seems to be both.

[Like us all, he likes what he likes and doesn't like what he doesn't like. That's certainly true of me. However, he does (or used to do? I haven't seen any for a while) annual predictions, and then later comes back and evaluates how right or wrong he was. Which is pretty brave, as none of us can actually predict the future. --Mike]

Bill Bresler beat me to the comment about the Pentax 67 wooden grip being the best ever. Surprised you didn’t mention it. Although today with my aging, arthritic hands I doubt I could carry the 67 around on one of my photo walks for more than a half hour.

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[Never experienced it, if you can believe that. I had a few friends who used a 67 as their main rig, and one had the grip, but I never laid hands on it.

The 67 played a part in getting me into photography in the first place, though. I ought to tell that story someday. --Mike]

Gone and lamented: J.B. (Jason Baxter) Camera Designs of Stillwater, OK, used to make and market the best external grips for cameras. JB fashioned them out of wood or composite, carefully crafted for each iteration of Olympus, Fuji, Panasonic, Sony, etc. mirrorless cameras. His grips were both beautiful and functional. As somebody who doesn't enjoy tension in my fingertips while clinging to a smooth camera surface and who also appreciates enough tactile surface for my pinky on the gripping hand, I bought a JB's grip for each new camera body upgrade. JB moved on from the camera accessory business; I guess the constant re-tooling wasn't profitable, given the dive in camera popularity of the last decade. Hoping that somebody gets inspired to carry on where JB stopped.

The reason why I don’t like adding an ‘additional’ grip is that it brings nothing except a grip. It essentially wastes space making the camera bigger, and heavier if made of metal, without any other use for the grip. The old motor drives added a grip and the motor to wind the film and a bigger battery as well. If the grip is part of the original design the camera can be either made a bit smaller by filling that grip part with electronics or battery, or the camera can be made last longer by using a bigger battery. That is a problem with the Sony RX 100 range, but sadly when they then made the video version of ZV they added a little grip but kept a very small battery. Waste of space by the manufacturer? Some of Olympus grips are also nothing nut pieces of plastic screwed to the front corner of the body, that can be exchanged with various coloured versions to make the camera look more cute, no doubt for the Japanese market. Isn’t camera a tool for making images? Why not make it practical, already at the factory.

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