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Have you considered an electric bike? One can be had for about $1500, and amortizing it from saved gas can be rather fast, given what you're saying.

Here's an example: A Rad Runner 2. You can also get a trike version if a bike worries you, though I think an electric trike is probably more dangerous.

There are other companies that sell bikes around that price point.

Where you live, I bet drivers are already used to going around Amish buggies, so why can't they go around an electric bike (which takes up less room on the road anyway).

Will it replace your car for most things? Maybe not. But 30%? It doesn't even have to take you on your photo errands, as long it displaces enough of your car miles to make up for buying the bike and free up the cost of gas (in dollar and emissions terms). It's probably a good trade even in the country, where you live.

Wow. That was an epic post.

Okay then. Enough excuses. Go out and make some photographs.

And as for a suggestion?

Pick a day and time. Have readers submit a single best photo taken strictly within 24 hours before that day and time.

And just post the lot. Just for fun.

Comment should be fascinating and the premise at least vaguely interesting to all.

I hear you about gas but I have to drive to work every night at about 10:00 pm and home every morning at around 7:00 am anyway as I work over nights as a hotel front desk clerk. These days the bag with the Leica M 240 is always with me and 9 days out of 10 I "take the long way home" and that is when my photography gets done.

I currently am using a 1937 Zeiss Sonnar 50/2 lens. It is uncoated and is one of the collapsible style originally made for the Contax II rangefinder system and I have an Amedeo adapter to use it. It makes very vintage looking black and white images.

I have 3 to 5 routes home that take me past about a half dozen "usual suspects" and about a dozen more less usual ones. Those are what I concentrate on most mornings.

On my days off, if the light is good, then I'll go for a longer drive in the local region trying to find things I haven't already seen alongside the the things I'm revisiting yet again.

"But unfortunately all those views didn't do the blog any good at all" Well of course not! You need to advertise the blog on those posts! You need a call to action to visit it! Something along the lines of:

If you enlarge this you can see the distant boat outlined quite nicely.
Shot with my monochrome-converted (debayered) SIGMA fp, which you can read about here (insert link to blog post)

Stories. We love stories.

Ones from the history of photography. I am just researching Paul Outerbridge because you just mentioned him. The story of his wife destroying his work. I’d love to know more.

Your recommendations re photographers I haven’t heard of is always fascinating.

OMG Mike, great stuff. I think you’ve tapped a vein here - The Photo Insider. Do tell. More of the inside behind the scenes would be appreciated.

In reference to the subject, "Online Photography", perhaps there should be more about photography and the Internet. Given the quality of most computer monitors, almost any camera is suitable for 'online photos'.

Maybe us readers are the ones that should contribute more photos for the blog. We could all send one picture, say once a month, and you could select some to include.

So writing about writing about photography turns out to have been a very good idea.

In the online world, it seems that it is always bout “ME”!

Mike (about his Flickr content):
> unfortunately all those views didn't do the blog any good at all

I have occasionally put some links back to my blog on Flickr, in the usual "a href=" and ending with "/a" style (I guess I can't use the real thing here as it would probably be considered a real link then, so substitute my parentheses with brackets).

I don't know if that brought more visitors onto my blog, but that wasn't my intention - if I posted a picture for a blog post, then sometimes I linked back, that simple...

Wonderful post filled with interesting topics.

After reading your comments on Phil Davis I went out to the 'net to re-acquaint myself with his work. I'd read through his "Beyond the Zone System" many years ago when I worked as a B&W print tech in Hollywood (Samy's Cameras lab on Sunset Blvd). Thinking that the 'net remembers everything I was expecting to see links to his other works. All I found were a very few pointers to the book.

That's where I realize many photographers seem to be pushed into the dark recesses of history. Makes me wish a good photographer/photography-historian would bring these kinds of folks back into public view.

You were temporarily stuck for ideas for content. You appealed to your readership, you got a suggestion: write about your own work. You ignored it completely and wrote a massive post about just about anything else. Yep, you are most definitely a writer, and you got what you needed from your appeal, albeit in a circumlocutory way.

Good post.

Whatever path you choose for your blog’s future I think it’s essential that you reconcile “The Online Photographer” title, Mike. TOP has become very distant from its origins and promise. Still, you seem to have an audience that likes to read whatever you write. So perhaps a new title that will better enable, and inspire, you to whimsically whiff on your mood (like so many podcasts, etc. these days) would maintain your success and enjoyment. But given the diversity and density of so many other online photography venues today I think you need to be realistic about your competitive prospects in that arena.

I think your "I'm a writer" statement sums it up nicely. But you are a writer who likes to think about photography, and write about it. Plus, in common with all of us, you like to take photos. You have your own pace for that. It's not a profession, it's a hobby. Perhaps as much as a calling, but not a life-consuming calling.

I used to be very dismissive of the photography "scene" as presented in photography magazines I paged through at the bookstore back in the 90's. It seemed like there were too many older men taking photos of women in bikinis (or cars, or other objects) and not enough people practicing photography as an interesting, original art form. But that was just cursory glance, and I was unaware of many of the masters.

I still wonder where the contemporary masters are (not our elder masters who are still hanging in, but new ones). It seems like we have loads and loads of master technicians, and few artists that stand above the crowd in big ways. Maybe that's inevitable with a democratic field like photography, that it eventually turns into a "pretty good" average without the master standouts.

Mike: Interesting to read. In my own case, I live at a similar latitude as you, but the images that most move me are quintessentially urban. So I ramble around a country farm house full of cameras and lenses, waiting for an opportunity to get to my "subject" -- the gloriously polyglot heterogeneity that is urban life.

I realize that the solution is to learn to find my images in what presents itself to me in my everyday life. And I do take a good selection of happy snaps along those lines. But other than test pictures where I am trying to figure out something specific about my process (so that I can be ready when the "real" images present themselves), it mostly seems quiet, beautiful, bucolic, cow-friendly . . . heaven for those inclined to landscape photography, but effectively a creative desert for me.

I guess the best way to express my bias is that I have never seen a photograph of a sunset -- or a tree -- that I wouldn't have preferred to see in person. Each and every sunset I have ever seen has been ineffably beautiful. And each photograph of a sunset has been. . . lesser by comparison. It is as if we lack the media to convey the majesty of it all. (Maybe if you could combine an image with music, you might get there.) But that, as they say, is me.

When all seems lost, I turn to still life. One photographer I interviewed with in the 90's for a studio assistant position told me, "If you can make an egg interesting with your composition, you'll know all you need to about setting up a scene." And hey, it worked for Edward Weston. In his case, I am convinced he was bored when he made his now iconic pictures of peppers. Bored and, eventually, hungry. When you think of his images of Charis, you'll see what I mean. But his peppers are pretty good, regardless.

'the "online photographer" in this site's title is you, not me'

Mind. Blown.

But that comment clarifies for me what I'd like to see more of here--something that's always been a mainstay: pondering what it means to be a photographer today, or even what photography means today, in an age when everyone with a phone also has a camera and anyone with a computer can transform a photo beyond recognition or conjure one from scratch. Is it retro to own a dedicated camera that isn't for work? Do we need to start distinguishing "deliberate" or "intentional" photography from the thing everyone does with their phones to memorialize or overshare their lives without ever thinking about photography? What would that even mean?

Also: pictures. You seem to really like looking at pictures and talking about them, and so do most of us. I sort of like Kye Wood's idea but it sounds like too much work. I'd propose instead starting a Flickr group where people (you included) submit their most *interesting* picture lately--one that cries out for discussion, or goes to the heart of the matter of what we "online photographers" are or do. Then, maybe, once in a while, you could pick the most compelling one(s) to you at the moment and start a conversation here?

And that brings me, I think, to the crux of the matter. This blog has always been, to me, about a deeply knowledgeable and committed enthusiast, superb writer and gracious host sharing his enthusiasm (with diverse side-enthusiasms thrown in) and inviting engagement. I hope that continues, wherever your enthusiasms lead. If you're feeling depleted, maybe you just need a break, or maybe an enthusiasm has very subtly altered course.

I'm a bit late to the "what should you do party," but here goes. Following with the themes of seeing more of what you're seeing (as you have a great eye) and more of your photos. But combine it with your impression of AI-generated images. Perhaps combine a photo of a local lake, for example, and then what Dalle or similar comes up with driven by your written description of the scene. Then, write about the contrast between the two. Thereby, you would combine your image-making skills, your scene description skills, and your writing! How's that for a kick!?

At the very least you can put a watermark with the URL to this site on each image. If you don't want it in the actual image, you can use PhotoShop to extend the canvas a little and print it to the new extended area.

All very literate and well-argued, but those are still excuses.
You live in a visually interesting part of the world, enjoy making photographs, and we like to see them. Cost of gas? it's hardly more than it was in 1976- and your tax professional can certainly find a way to write some of that off.
It's May-- the most beautiful time of year in upstate New York. Take a drive over to Watkins Glen and have a look at the waterfalls there and in nearby Montour Falls. It will be good for your eye, mind, and spirit to get out of the house, undistracted by chores and errands.

You say that "the 'online photographer; in this site's title is you, not me". Are you sure? I've only been wrong about that for 15 years or so...

I think James is right on the money. An electric bike will take you places fast and safe.

I will note that if ever I want to pick a photograph to pieces for some real or even imagined error in, say, an online forum I always find it best to use one of my own benighted photos as the illustration.

I know the photographer won't get mad at me!

...Mike

Well, as an alternative to writing about the process of taking and printing your own photos, here's something in the neighborhood that achieves some of the same goals (at least as I see it).

Every month, invite a reader (or ask for submissions and choose one from a reader, or ask readers to enter a lottery and choose one at random) to submit 3 photos, and you then generate an exhibition-quality print of it and write about the process. Obviously there's some risk you'll think unpleasant thoughts about the photographer along the way, warn people and get them to release you from being accused of defamation. And of course don't accept anything you'll be *mostly* negative about.

Or, ask readers, one a month or some such, to write an illustrated article about taking and printing one of their own photos. More viewpoints, but some of us are more skilled printers than other (I suspect myself of being midrange, maybe, certainly not top).

Obviously, this would get us quite a bit of discussion about "good" pictures, and printing, and perhaps some advanced photo topics. Does always have the risks of artists dealing with negative comments, but that applies to you, too, both sides.

Oh, and electric bikes are way cool, and fun, but safe? Can't see how they're any safer than regular bikes, which are pretty risky on roads, and in fact people frequently go faster on them than regular bikes hence perhaps MORE dangerous. If you get one, get it for fun and to get around your immediate neighborhood more. Finger lakes is hilly, yes? So a regular bike would be a chore a lot of the time? (I waved in your general direction when I passed the Finger Lakes exit from whatever freeway that was, 2 days ago.)

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