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Tuesday, 26 December 2023

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I'm having much the same dilemma right now. I've got a 2015 era 27" imac for photo editing, mainly. It's showing it's age when I try to ingest hundreds or even thousands of photos from an event, or a photo trip, and waiting while it builds the previews. (Yes, I know about Photo Mechanic. For some reason I can't leave it to chew through all the photos, it only does a grid screen at a time.) Working on individual photos is fine.

I'm musing about updating. The 24" iMac has no SD card slot and would seem small after the 27". The Mini has no SD card slot, and I'd need to buy a monitor. (Yes I know I can buy a USB dongle for SD cards.) I'd buy an M chip 27 or 32 iMac again, except they don't make one. The choice seems to be between the Studio box (I really like that there's an SD card slot on the FRONT of the box), and buying a monitor, or a MacBook and still buying a monitor. The nice Mac monitor is stupidly expensive compared to similar monitors.

Decisions, decisions.

Let me humbly suggest that the Mac Mini is no longer too small, and may be in fact the perfect device. With the not-so-new-anymore M chips, the Mac Mini is no longer a compromise between size and graphics performance. Or, if it is, the compromise is one that not even the Mac Studio avoids.

I write this on a New Mac Pro (from circa 2013), awaiting FedEx delivery of my new Mac today.

mm... Mac Mini... a lovely little box...

I almost bought into the iMac dilemma when the Mini was introduced and I was able to keep the monitor/mouse/keyboard already in use....

I've been through three Mac Mini's over the years - never a complaint during the timeframe (except for the one OS upgrade that butchered my inbox)...

Current edition is the last Intel-powered Mini model, but I've been watching the new Studios for awhile now....

My wife got me a surprise gift for Christmas, a new M2 Air, with the 15 inch screen. Battery seems to last forever, Keyboard has the best feel of any Mac to date. Even though she got me the bare bones 256 gb, 8 gb ram version it's crazy how fast it is. I was thinking of returning it for a beefier version but I think I'm fine. It's silent and great for writing, browsing, and movies. I still use the big computer in the basement (M1 Studio) for processing photos, but this one makes me happy.

I look forward to hearing about SeanG's fresh experience, but as owner of an M2 Mini, I humbly second his assessment. There's a quantum leap in performance over previous generations.

The catch is that the main reason for that leap is that the CPU and GPU cores and system memory are now all on the same chip--integrated and non-upgradeable. Specifying extra amounts of any of these at ordering time gets pricey quickly, and can be a little complicated. On the other hand, memory management and efficiency are excellent. Apple also charges a lot for built-in SSD storage, also non-upgradeable. The consensus seems to be that it's better to splurge on CPU, GPU and/or RAM as needs dictate, and rely on the speedy Thunderbolt 4 interface for expanding storage later. For most users, using fast external SSD drives for their data right from the start would be quite practical, as well as sensible for a couple of reasons.

One big remaining flaw is that the number of ports remains stingy. Those who need more ports, RAM and/or horsepower may find the Mac Studio the more economical option in the end.

Are you sure the newest Mac Mini wouldn't work for you? With the optional M2Pro chip, it looks pretty beefy to me. Or the Mac Studio? It isn't THAT much bigger than the Mini and it isn't too much more expensive than the Mini.

[The Mac Studio is the model in the middle that I wanted back then. It's here now, yes, and probably would be right for me. But the Mac Mini I have is doing all right. --Mike]

I have owned the trashcan since 2013, got a good discount as a friend is a trolley dolly for BA and brought from the US for me… £1800 instead of £2500.

I have been using this and a NEC PA272W ever since.

I don’t have any reason or intention to buy anything else, if either part breaks, I will replace that part. Moreover, there are quite a few internal parts that can be changed or upgraded in the trashcan, like memory and graphics.

Add that it looks space age and has a small footprint relative to its potential power. Mine is still as delivered with 12gb memory, and it is all that I have ever needed, it rarely gets switched off and I have cleaned it once since 2013. I have no spinning disks and one fan which spins slowly and almost silently.

This is a big difference to my former iMac 27” which was sent to the sky bin after two years. Also if I remember correctly it had those two wires running horizontally across the display, which I hated.

The mac mini m1 is a more than enough solution for most people. Together with the satechi hub you can have a second ssd, cardreader, 3 usb a, one usb c its more than enough for me and others. I thank Thom Hogan for this helpful information. At least 16 Gb ram and 512Gb. I use my 27 monitor with it.

Christine Bogan

I suggest you re-evaluate today's Mac Mini options. It really kicks ass with the (relatively) new M2 brain. Trade-in (recycle) your current iMac. Get any of many fine, relatively inexpensive monitors, add external hard drives and Bob's your uncle for many years.

Alternatively, but more expensively, anchor your system with a MacBook Air (which also kicks ass) and give yourself the option of portability.

Sorry Mike, I guess we're not really grokking the ghosts-of-TOP-past thing yet. I'll do better, I promise!

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