Blog Note: I will catch up with Comments today. [UPDATE: I didn't, quite. But I am making progress. —MJ, 11:25 p.m.] I am going to have to make other arrangements; this is happening too often, me getting behind on the Comments. Woeful. Deplorable. Unforgivable. It's my job.
But first...in one of those comments, David Bennett asked:
"A couple of months with an Olympus XA2 and I am enjoying shooting a film camera for which I have no or few expectations. But if I was going to get something a little spiffier, I wonder what it would be? I have a Nikon FE that I haven't touched for years, and a Super Silette—and I yearn (a little bit) for a camera with a small format and a knockout lens. And of course I think about Leica (heavy though, aren't they) and I wonder what you or your readers think might be a good choice?"
Oh, that's it—ask me for recommendations. You know I can't resist. I will answer.
[UPDATE: D'oh! Kevin Willoughby found the best suggestion, in the Featured Comments. I'm a dope for not thinking of that for David. For a good book with many shots taken with that camera, I recommend Ground Time by the photo enthusiast (and airline pilot) Kent Reno.]
But before I do: the Super Silette, for those who don't know, refers to the coupled-rangefinder versions of a line of less expensive Agfa/Ansco fixed-lens Silette cameras that originally had scale focusing. Offhand, I can't find reliable dates for the Super Silette, but it may have been as early as 1955, continuing into the 1960s. Agfa used the word "Super" for the top-spec cameras of various lines, for example the Super Isolette.
I personally made quite a few forays into old fixed-lens cameras, including many little '70s rangefinders, back when I lived in Woodstock, Illinois (where the movie "Groundhog Day" was filmed), spurred on by Stephen Gandy and his fantasic Camera Profiles page on Cameraquest, which he still maintains. (Stephen has morphed into being a significant dealer of Voigtländer products. The right hobbyist could have great fun just exploring the fantasyland of Voigtländer products. Hirofumi Kobayashi [小林博文] is a true enthusiast as dyed-in-the-wool as any of us.) That lasted until I took one good picture with the Zeiss Contessa that I inherited from my Aunt, which is when I realized that there was more to life than eking photographs painstakingly out of an old Zeiss. The whole interlude was fun, but my problem was that I was really more interested in pictures than in cameras. In fact I was more interested in printing—darkroom craftsmanship—than in the exploration of old, difficult-to-use film cameras. So, pictures first, then printmaking, then cameras. But collecting and trying old cameras in the grand tradition of that wonderful gentleman Ivor Matanle is a noble hobby, and I wouldn't for 1/1000th of a second scorn anyone for diving into it.
As far as the choice of a film Leica is concerned, my nod would go to the M4 (1966–75). The M4 was historically rather scorned; it was neither as aristocratic as the fabled and worshiped M3 (1953), nor was it as practical and refined as the M6 (1984). But it was built like a Tiger tank. No less a personage than Sherry Krauter—who, by the way, still lives on Purgatory Road, which I covet as an address—once told me that all film Leicas had an arc of quality, either upward or downward, with the sole exception of the M4, which was built to the highest standard from first to last. (I think the current M6 is also built to the highest standard, at least from what I can glean from here and there and hither and yon. But better ask Sherry or one or two of her fellow Leica specialist repairpersons.)
One of rock photographer Jim Marshall's M4's. That
thing on the bottom is a Leicavit rapid-winder.
The M4 was also the tool of my "Leica year," a personal OC/OL/OY, which took place in 1997–8 or so. My friend Nick Hartmann (son of the late Erich Hartmann of Magnum) had bought a bargain M4 that cost less than the going rate because of a small, completely inoffensive dent in the back of the top plate; I believe he paid $600, give or take a hundred. He generously loaned it to me for a year, and I used it with the formidable Dual-Range (DR) 50mm Summicron, which is the best-built lens that Leica, and probably anyone, ever made. That thing is...I don't even know what to compare it to. Just imagine the most solid and well-built single object Germans ever made and you've got the gist. (I used to joke that it was heavier than it would be if it were solid metal.) I got mine for cheap because mine was missing the close-focusing "eyes," which was okay because I just wanted to use it as a normal lens for general photography.
(Hint if you're going to go looking for one: make sure the numbers on the body of the lens and the optical head match. Apparently it was known, back when the seven-element Summicrons were current, that the highest-tolerance examples were reserved for the DR, so people who didn't care to have the heavier construction of the DR and didn't have any need for the close-focusing capability would trade the DR optical head for one in a regular 50mm Summicron. Evidently DR Summicrons with mismatching serial numbers between the two parts are common, although I have no idea how common.)
The M4 goes up and down in price as the planet wends its eternal course 'round and 'round the Sun. Currently the prices aren't crazy, unless you insist on competing with the collectors, who demand perfect, pristine examples. As you might guess, I wouldn't; I like M4's with a little, let's say, personality on them. They are rugged devices, and a few scars are mere badges of honor. Anything good enough for Jim Marshall ought to be good enough for me. (By the way, I'm sure many of the original prints reproduced in that book were made by Ctein. He was Jim Marshall's printer.)
If there's no requirement that your "camera with a small format and a knockout lens" be a Leica, David, and you'd rather have an SLR instead (I've always preferred SLRs to rangefinders, the lore of Leica notwithstanding), then you have lots of choices, including your FE, which was refined into the later FM3. There was never actually a "perfect" MMM (metal, manual, mechanical) film SLR, for reasons I'd have to write another post about. But the imperfect one that came the closest of all for me was the Olympus OM-2N, brainchild of the great Japanese camera designer Yoshihisu Maitani (米谷美久). A small lens with a lot of character is the Zuiko 40mm ƒ/2, lately made very expensive because of interest from cinematographers looking for characterful lenses, or, if you want pure performance, the Zuiko 50mm ƒ/2 Macro, which is optically even better than the great Leica Dual-Range overall (although not, perhaps, at the latter's optimum aperture).
It would be a fun quest, if you decide to go that way.
Now, off to work on Comments.
Mike
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Featured Comments from:
Howard Sandler: "I have a Super Silette, with the top of the line Solagon ƒ/2 lens. It doesn’t get much spiffier than that. I also have an Ambi-Silette, which is a similar rangefinder, but with interchangeable lenses. This photo (here's the large version) shows it with the 35mm lens. There was even a fancier Type 2 Ambi-Silette with some improvements such as a wider rangefinder baseline. They are great cameras and not very big or heavy. The only thing not so spiffy is the tendency of the aluminum finish to pit."
Keith B: "I had three Leica M cams: 1981: new M4-P; 1984: very used M4; 2004: slightly used M6. The well-used M4 was by far the smoothest operating, best-feeling of the three."
Richard Tugwell: "I feel the need to leap to the defense of the M3. Sure the rewind knob and film loading are a bit fiddly, but how often does that interfere with your use of the camera? I love the viewfinder and I love the silky feel of the film advance lever (mine is single stroke)."
Kevin Willoughby: "Not just small image format, but physically one of the smallest 35mm cameras ever, with lovely Zeiss lenses, would be the Rollei 35. A true gem with a few quirks to give it character."
Mike replies: See my UPDATE, above. And thanks.
I think you should have a “rule” not to put up any new post until comments have been posted, at least one day’s worth, for the current post. Otherwise , there’s effectively no reader interaction, which makes the blog far less interesting. Your call, of course, but I’ll stop commenting otherwise; waste of my time. Emails, too.
[Yes, I'm quite shamefaced about this. I really meant not to let this happen again. The comments are at least half the show here. --Mike]
Posted by: Jeff | Saturday, 04 November 2023 at 01:58 PM
I had a beautiful Leica M4 in the '80s and yes, it was sublime in every way. After the usual progression for many getting into the M system with old beat up M3 bodies, and being frustrated by the lack of 35mm lens support without a supplemental viewfinder (or those ugly bug-eyes) which ruined the clean lines of the body, the M4 was a welcome addition. Also better than the M3 was the film loading and rewinding which had evolved dramatically. Sadly, I had not yet arrived at my current rule, "Never Sell Anything!" I moved to Japan, and the yen was strong, so I sold 5 Leica M bodies, one being the M4, over there for an amazing amount in terms of dollars.
Today I still have my M6 (my first new-in-the-box Leica) and my M2R, but haven't bought a roll of film in a decade.
Based on my frequent regrets, often years later over cameras and lenses that I let go for long forgotten monies, I now keep everything that I've bought, literally stacks of cameras and lenses floor to ceiling, many that will never see the light of day again. Irrational sure, but I hate regrets.
Posted by: Albert Smith f | Saturday, 04 November 2023 at 03:02 PM
If ya don't mind digital- you're talking GR.
Posted by: Stan B. | Saturday, 04 November 2023 at 03:17 PM
Would just like to mention that if he doesn’t want to make the investment in a Leica there are several 70’s era fixed lens rangefinders that I think will fit the bill. The first is the Konica Auto S3. When Modern
Photography reviewed the camera and tested the lens they called it the best lens of its type they had ever tested. The disadvantage of this camera is that it is shutter priority and can’t be shot in manual mode. But you can kind of get around this by changing the ISO setting. The other camera is the Olympus 35RD which also has a wonderful lens, shoots in shutter priority, but this one can be shot in manual mode even without a battery. All of these 70’s era fixed lens rangefinders will benefit from a CLA especially to clean and adjust the viewfinder/rangefinder which typically have dimmed with haze over the last 50 years, but once cleaned are beautiful to look through. At the time of the CLA the tech can modify them to take modern silver oxide batteries instead of the mercury cells they were designed for. I have owned both of these cameras and they are terrific shooters. As Mike mentioned you can read about them on Stephen Gandy’s CameraQuest website. Even with the CLA either camera will cost much less than just the lens for the Leica.
Posted by: Steve Rosenblum | Saturday, 04 November 2023 at 04:23 PM
And how about BDhouse while you’re at it? It’s been seven weeks since we turned in our homework. ;-)
Posted by: Terry Burnes | Saturday, 04 November 2023 at 06:33 PM
Easy peasy - any manual focus Nikon since Dec 1954 with a Nikkor 50/1.4 lens 😎
My preference right now is a Nikon S2 with a Nikkor 50/1.4 but I'm seriously thinking of adding a Nikon FG in the near future.
(These would be along with my bigger and heavier AF Nikons both film and digital that don't quite do 'A Camera with a Small Format and a Knockout Lens'😈
Posted by: William Lewis | Saturday, 04 November 2023 at 08:24 PM
I had a Contax G1 once upon a time with those wonderful Zeiss lenses. If I was go going to go back and shoot film again I would certainly consider that option as an affordable option to Leica.
Posted by: Jay Salisbury | Saturday, 04 November 2023 at 09:07 PM
Carl Zeiss Planar 45mm f/2 on a Contax G1. (The G2 is heavier).
55mm f/2.8 AI-s Micro Nikkor for that FE. (Despite the fact that Mike wants to ban all AI).
Yashica T4 (or T5). I sold mine five years ago to an art student for € 125. Had the ugly green Safari limited edition that sells now for four or five times that amount. I once got it by trading in my tiny Contax T1 rangefinder, because my wife could not handle that one. The autofocus on the T4 made life so much easier.
Ricoh started the GR series with some film cameras. I had one for my work, but I found its 28mm too wide for general use.
Posted by: s.wolters | Sunday, 05 November 2023 at 02:01 AM
There are a lot of affordable, still-useful film rangefinder cameras that don't have a red dot. In most instances, a competent CLA (Clean-Lube-Adjust) will restore suitable function although optically, most of the attached lenses won't resolve nearly as well as a Summicron.
All of these require either a separate light meter or the ability to accurately estimate exposure in varying lighting conditions.
For a really small folding 35mm RF camera, there's always the Kodak Retina IIc, with the coated 50/2 Schneider Xenon lens, basically a Planar design.
If you want to go a bit larger in a "compact" folder, there's a Voightlander Bessa II 6 cm x9 cm folding RF camera. The best models have coated Heliar or Apo-Lanthar lenses actually made by Voightlander in Germany, but these upper-tier fixed lenses models are incredibly rare, at least on the market.
Getting CLAs for these two models was easy, also I've yet to find anyone who can CLA 1950s Nikon and Zeiss Contax-style interchangible lens rangefinder cameras.
Going up another notch, most 4x5 US-made press cameras like Graphics as well as the Linhof Technika technical cameras include rangefinder capabilities.
Posted by: Joseph L. Kashi | Sunday, 05 November 2023 at 03:57 AM
If you are looking for a cheaper option, I can highly recommend the Olympus 35RC as a rangefinder. If you can cope with scale focussing, the Rollei 35 and the Olympus Trip are great too.
Posted by: Malcolm Myers | Sunday, 05 November 2023 at 04:17 AM
Well, the logical step up from an XA2 is the XA. Nicer lens and more control.
I'm not sure if it's possible to find a good-condition Leica CL or CLE any more, but that would be a larger step up, especially with the wonderful and compact Summicron-C 40mm. Smaller and lighter than an M, with a few (gasp!) plastic bits, but still a precision instrument. It was good enough for the mature Henri Cartier-Bresson, and who are we to argue?
Posted by: robert e | Sunday, 05 November 2023 at 08:54 AM
Canon Canonet QL17 GIII
Posted by: JoeB | Sunday, 05 November 2023 at 12:36 PM
Excluding my iPhone, I've transitioned entirely to analog photography, now exclusively using a 1974 Leica M4. Over a few years, I sold all my digital cameras, including Canon DSLRs, Olympus and Panasonic Micro 4/3 cameras and Digital Leica Ms, as I found that the post-processing in Lightroom had killed the joy of photography for me. The hours spent in front of the computer going through thousands of frames felt like a mandatory time consuming burden.
The theft of my Leica MP and its 50mm f/1.4 ASPH Summilux lens left me with only a 35mm f/2.0 Summicron (not my favourite focal length!). So I purchased the M4 which I now shoot with the 35 Summicron. I sometimes find myself eyeing the M6s and M7s, mainly because I rely heavily on a Voigtländer VC Meter for exposure.
I did stop concert photography - that I used to enjoy very much - as I struggle to capture images that I like with a film Leica. I am just not good enough I guess!
And I need to find the Knockout Lens! The one with character!
Posted by: Franck D. | Sunday, 05 November 2023 at 06:18 PM
In the featured comment by David Bennett, he mentions Purgatory Road as an address he would enjoy. In my younger days I competed in TSD (time-speed-distance) car rallies. These involve route finding and time keeping. As navigator I spent many hours in the car reading maps and deciphering instructions. Near St. Catharines, Ontario, there is a road called Sodom. Several hundred kilometers away near Belleville, Ontario, is a road called Gomorrah. Isn't it a shame that they're not closer together and maybe even intersect. Wouldn't it be fun telling people that you live at Sodom and Gomorrah.
Posted by: Robert Roaldi | Monday, 06 November 2023 at 11:12 AM
Here in India the still ubiquitous Yashica Electro 35s and the Canonet QLs are all the rage for film shooters not to mention Nikon FM10s.
Posted by: Sreeram Chandran | Tuesday, 07 November 2023 at 03:10 AM
A vote for the Olympus 35 SP. Nice rangefinder and the 42mm f1.7 seven-element is a gem.
Posted by: Andrew Lamb | Tuesday, 07 November 2023 at 07:31 AM
I realize I'm late to the party, but I would like to add a full-throated recommendation of the Pentax MX. I have owned and used many, Many, MANY SLRs, rangefinders and mini cameras of one sort or another, and my favorite (by far) is the Pentax MX. Small, solid, great viewfinder and controls.
If you want more features and don't mind a small (but not insignificant) increase in size and weight, I would recommend a Nikon FE-2.
As for Leicas...they are...interesting, but what I feel is consistently overlooked is just how dang heavy they are. Or maybe they just feel that way because they are so dense. Beautifully made? Yes. But I would never want to lug one around.
FWIW, I dislike using shoulder straps with cameras, and I found I could easily carry a Pentax MX with a 50mm lens in one hand all day.
Posted by: adamct | Wednesday, 08 November 2023 at 02:07 AM
You hit several contacts points with me in this post. I still have the M4 that I bought in 2005, and had it serviced by Sherry K. And the OM2n - a perfect complement to the Leica as the lens focus ring turns in the same direction. My other nomination in the "small format / knockout lens" category would be my Spotmatic with (purely by chance) one of the rare and excellent 8-element Super-Takumar 50mm f/1.4 lenses. It feels as well made as the Leica and provides that satisfying mechanical tactile feedback.
Posted by: Chrsi Nicholls | Wednesday, 08 November 2023 at 07:25 PM