Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: "The simplest way to feed this hunger to see prints regularly is to take part in print exchanges—I have been doing so, every month, for the past 15 years, despite living in India. It started with only B&W on digital printers, which was a voodoo-like art worth learning in 2004 when I started, but nowadays encompasses both B&W and colour. The other advantage, of course, is that you effortlessly build up a print collection."
David Lee wrote: "I was a member of the APUG forum. Every now and then they would organize a postcard exchange. You could sign up for either 20 or 50 exchanges as far as I remember. You would have to print, in your darkroom, 20 or 50 postcard-sized photographs and then send them in the mail to the 20 or 50 people you were given on a list. Then, you would receive, in the mail, 20 or 50 black and white darkroom prints, postcard or 5x7's.
"It was amazing. Once, my neighbour got one of them by mistake and when she brought it to me, she told me how excited she was, thinking that she got a postcard! Maybe we can do something like this, Mike. My darkroom is back in Mexico and now I live in the middle east, but I can still manage to make some nice digital prints and they still have postal stamps around here."
Rodolfo Canet Castelló wrote: "One of the most exciting activities I did with other members of some photographic forum was a print exchange: within quite relaxed rules on size and format, every month we posted a print to a member and got another from a different one. It was a mixed bag: most times I didn’t get something so much worked on and cared for as I had sent, but several times I got prints I treasure and, once, a photo that truly resonated with my soul and got me close to tears. Curiously enough, when I proposed to change the rules to make public the senders and receivers before posting, so making it possible to choose the picture from our online galleries, everyone preferred to keep it secret and, therefore, random. Ah, the thrill of expectation!"
Mike comments: Very interesting—and how great that would be. The only thing I've ever participated in that came close to that was an email music group called C60Crew, semi-ironically named after the code for an hour-long cassette tape and the slang word for "gang" that prevailed at that time. There were six or eight members, and every month one person, in turn, sent out a mixed tape of music to all the others. Eventually the tapes became CDs, and then it sort of atrophied because we had gotten to know each other's musical tastes so well. It survives today (probably 25 years on) on Mixcloud, where the leader of the old group, my ex-dj friend KK, regularly posts mixes of new, obscure, experimental, esoteric music and electronica under the old name. The latest one is called "She's So Heavy" and features a black-and-white portrait of a young Gina Lollobrigida on the cover. [UPDATE: Sophia Loren? I'm not up on Italian bombshells of my parents' generation, and the Internet is not very good at history.] (Also, check out the cartoon on the cover of "That Falling Feeling"—I keep laughing at that.)
I don't think I could handle a print exchange, personally. Everyone has their crosses to bear, and I'm not complaining, but my personal ones are a lack of energy and a distinct, though not quite crippling, lack of organizing aptitude, ability, and skill. Keeping a small house passably neat and decently organized is at the limit of my capabilities. My computer is an appalling mess—if it were physical instead of virtual, it would be the equivalent of that woman I saw on A&E's "Hoarders" whose husband had bought three houses for her, one after the other. She had relentlessly filled each house with stuff until the couple had to buy the house next door and move into that. (The husband approached the show's producers in extremis because the third house had become too jammed with junk to move around in and he couldn't afford a fourth mortgage.) (By the way, "Hoarders" is a show which makes sport of torturing people with mental illness, so I stopped watching it. Hoarders are just sick, that's all. Torturing sick people doesn't help them.) (Should I count digressions as my third weakness?)
Back to the subject: I don't think I'm personally capable of helping readers organize print exchanges, because I'm too, like I told you, disorganized. And if I were to participate in one I'd just be the FU who messed up the system for the others. But it's a great idea and if anyone has any ideas as to how I might help connect readers who want to form groups, chime in below.
Mike
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hugh crawford: "Gina or Sophia? I’d go with Sophia, but that’s definitely taken on the Staten Island ferry. Pro tip: if you want to do an iconic celebrity in NYC photo, not have anyone in the background or get bothered much by tourists, spend about an hour with your subject on a pleasant cruise past the Statue of Liberty and other interesting backgrounds to include. And everyone has at least one crazy only-in-New-York story to tell. And it’s free! I even think there is still a bar on board."
Mike in R. Colorado: "Prints are great, no question about that, but sharing photographs is also worthwhile. I get together monthly—it just happens to be this evening!—with a group. We meet at a pub. Some of us are mostly film, some mostly digital as far as cameras. Most, but not all of are sharing is via digital files. Twenty or fewer from each person are projected as a 20-second timed slide show. There's not much time to talk about them as the photos go by, but sometimes we stop it and talk for a bit, and we all usually have more to say at the end of each person's presentation. Occasionally a few of us bring prints that we set out on a table and all gather around. It's not a competition, or even a review, it's just sharing. Lots of fun."
Roberto Carlin: "Definitively Sofia Loren And by the way did you know that Gina Lollobrigida is also a photographer?"
Mike replies: I did not. Thanks.
Any who is interested in setting up a print exchange without requiring Mr. Johnston to do the heavy lifting or be responsible for follow-through can simply Google "how to set up a print exchange." There's more than one way to set one up and every approach has its pros and cons. As Rodolfo's comment suggests, the rewards can be hit or miss, depending on individual tastes and expectations. But as the saying goes, "nothing ventured, nothing gained."
Posted by: Gordon Lewis | Tuesday, 03 September 2019 at 11:42 AM
"...and features a black-and-white portrait of a young Gina Lollobrigida on the cover."
Looks like Sophia Loren to me.
Posted by: GKFroehlich | Tuesday, 03 September 2019 at 12:21 PM
Years ago, a "Facebook friend" who I did not personally know, asked me if I wanted to do a print exchange. There was a recent uploaded photo of his that I liked so I agreed. I sent him a beautiful 13x19 print made by myself on Museo Rag. I received an 8x10 in return. It was a cheap crappy print, probably made at Walgreen's or one of those chintzy online printers—printed on semi-gloss lustre ink jet paper and probably cost him all of $4.00. I learned my lesson. Unless someone puts as much care and love in the printing of a pictures as they put in making it, it is absolutely worthless. I would not do it again unless I knew the photographer personally or actually saw the print with my own eyes.
Posted by: David Saxe | Tuesday, 03 September 2019 at 01:29 PM
OK.. I cannot resist anymore.
Reminds me of a song (appologies in advance)
'Some day my prints will come'
Posted by: BrianD | Tuesday, 03 September 2019 at 03:02 PM
Here's one way you could do it. Ask for 50 names on a first come-first serve basis, with the stipulation that at least one of the 50 has to volunteer to be the coordinator, and all 50 volunteers have to share their contact info. Create an e-mail list and say to the volunteers, "you work it out." The 50 choose an organizer, or someone volunteers, to make a list of addresses. Then it is up to the volunteers to print and send.
Ask for a ping back in six weeks from the group leader so that you can do a "lessons learned" from the participants and have the group leader do a guest post about how it all went. Guest poster gets to choose 10 of the best according to his/her own personal whimsey for presenting to TOP, subject to your editorial rules re: content. If it goes well, call for another 50 names in six months . . .
Posted by: Benjamin Marks | Tuesday, 03 September 2019 at 03:04 PM
It does not have to be complicated. I'd say you ask someone to organize it, and point them/us to a webpage with a forum, where the details can be worked out.
PHOTRIO (formerly APUG) organizes print exchanges since years, check the "Postcard Exchange Round 48 Sign Up" thread for ideas.
PHOTRIO is no longer exclusively analog, so it may even host your exchange. I'd be in!
Posted by: Erik Petersson | Tuesday, 03 September 2019 at 03:53 PM
The raison d'être for the print groups I belong to is that we all got tired of the camera club scene and wanted to up our game and hang out with a more diverse group of people at or above out level of skill. The brief is simple - bring up to 6 prints, ideally on a theme. You get to put them up on the display rail, say whatever you want about them and the group can get up close and personal with them, comment, critique, ask questions ... whatever. The idea is to get the participants to think in terma of "collections" of images rather than one-offs and to facilitate an open ended free flowing discussion and feedback in a collegial environment. A critical element is to keep the group size moderate so that everyone can get decent viewing time.
I've discussed doing this online on a monthly basis with a couple of internet buddies using Dropbox. Everyone likes the idea as long as they don't have to do the organizing (sound familiar?) or commit to participating. The idea is still out there. It's not a print exchange by any means, but a way of sharing your/our work with an interested audience. If anyone wants to try it drop me a line at [email protected].
Posted by: JohnW | Tuesday, 03 September 2019 at 04:48 PM
I've been to plenty of museums. The Rodin Museum in Pladelphia, the National Gallery of Art in DC, the de Young Museum in Frisco, the Norton Simon in Pasadena, Los Angeles County Museum of Art, The Exposiion Park museums (California Science Center, California African American Museum, Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County), The San Diego Natural History Museum and The San Diego Museum of Art, in Balboa Park.
The only museum where I looked at photos was The Museum of Contemporary Art in L.A.—they had a Larry Clark exhibit.
Posted by: c.d.embrey | Tuesday, 03 September 2019 at 07:47 PM
Both are interesting ideas. The one David Lee describes would be the easiest to arrange. You just get a group that is interested in an exchange and everyone sends everyone else a print. It's a one-shot deal with the number of prints determined by how many are in the group.
The model Rudolfo describes would be harder because it has to be determined who would send who a print to ensure everyone got one and the exchange partners would need to be rotated with each succeeding exchange to ensure a complete mix. I suppose some computer wiz could come up with an app for that.
I think the rotating group would have to be closed through the complete rotation but the one-shot group could change easily from one iteration to the next.
Posted by: James Bullard | Tuesday, 03 September 2019 at 08:05 PM
Still have a stack of prints from the Leica LUG group (including Jayanand Govindaraj's). My printing skills didn't quite reach the level of the rest of the groups is the major reason I stepped away.
Posted by: Sanjay Nasta | Wednesday, 04 September 2019 at 12:25 AM
Yeah, print exchanges take effort on the participants... doesn't work if everyone just sits back and wait for the prints to arrive.
Posted by: Nige | Wednesday, 04 September 2019 at 03:37 AM
Looks like Sophia Loren to me: La Lollo had a more turned-up nose.
Posted by: David Babsky | Wednesday, 04 September 2019 at 06:31 AM
Would love to be part of a print exchange. Hopefully we can discuss it some more with the goal of actually doing it..sign me up!
Posted by: Chester Williams | Wednesday, 04 September 2019 at 08:52 AM
Please don't take the wrong way, Mike, but I can't help but think that some spent spent time working in the corporate private sector would have beneficial for you.
When I started out my career as a scientist, I thought I would work in the academic arena my entire life, but with NIH and NSF grants being what they were, that was not to be.
I transitioned to corporate biotech at the dawn of the "genetic engineering era" and I learned more working in biotech in two years than I had in five years in academia.
I also had the good fortune to have worked for some very good managers who set clear business & professional development goals and objectives for me, and man, they held me accountable for them. When one is held to expectations where a high level of execution is the order of day.....that can be a really good thing for one's personal development.
The best thing that ever happened to me with respect to my own professional development was being chosen as a Six Sigma Black Belt candidate, and then going on to become a Design for Six Sigma Master Black Belt.
My Six Sigma training was like the corporate equivalent of Navy SEAL training, and it was the hardest thing I've ever done; it damn near killed me.
It was also the best thing I've ever done. I take that training forward with me every day, even now, in retirement.
Posted by: Stephen Scharf | Wednesday, 04 September 2019 at 01:03 PM
I have about 10,000 images on display now at Flickr, and a few are printable. It isn't just quality; the image has to stand alone. I mainly do albums/slideshows where images make more sense in context with others... Anyway, I will try to get my goodies together and put up an album of print-quality (IMHO) sRGB Jpeg files which anyone may print (non-commercially). I have my prints done at Costco, so yours may be better. First I have to clean up everything...
I'll call the album "Prints in Waiting". I may have it done before the BDMuseum appears....
Posted by: Bruce Bordner | Wednesday, 04 September 2019 at 02:18 PM
I'd like to add one thing, the group should send extra prints to Mike as well, to thank him for getting this thing going.
Posted by: Erik Petersson | Wednesday, 04 September 2019 at 03:12 PM
The good thing about the postcard exchange format is that you avoid getting a crappy print in exchange of a properly made print. It is only postcard sized good photographs, the ones we are proud of, but in a small size. Easy and not expensive to make. If we like the photograph, then maybe we can arrange privately on the side to get a larger and better copy. But I understand Mike a 100% when he says he does not want to be a part of this. Maybe some other time.
Posted by: David Lee | Wednesday, 04 September 2019 at 04:14 PM